Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 17:50 UTC, submitted by Charles A Landemaine
PC-BSD PC-BSD announced that it will deliver Opera in the next version of PC-BSD. Opera will be "one less thing you need to download after installation", as Matt Olander, CTO of iXsystems puts it, to get "a more usable system" out of your PC-BSD box.
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by MrViklund on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 21:28 UTC
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2007-02-21

I think this is really bad.
I don't want Opera. I want Firefox. I hope Firefox is default after installation. If it's Opera it stinks.

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RE: Bad
by poundsmack on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 21:50 in reply to "Bad"
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2005-07-13

personaly i hope opera is the only browser on there (of course konquer will be there). After all fire fox runs on anything practicaly, and thats good cuz its great, but opera is a little harder to get on things right some times. so to have it be the main focus seems best to me. epecialy since pc-bsd is ment for bussiness as well, all the intigration of opera is nice

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RE: Bad
by deathshadow on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 22:04 in reply to "Bad"
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2005-07-12

>> I don't want Opera. I want Firefox.

Funny, I'm the exact opposite, finding firefox buggy, bloated, buggy, slow, buggy, and even 2.0 still has that wonderful memory 'feature' (mostly in the stupid download manager - let's route EVERYTHING through the download manager, even images and files that are already in the cache, even redownloading them in some cases - RIGHT)

In fact, I'm not in the habit of supporting programs that try to pass a memory leak as a feature, or that has a support staff (bugzilla) who's best response to an error report is a two paragraph attack on saying 'crash' instead of 'hung' - a distinction I've not heard in three decades of computing.

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On topic - Good to see SOMEONE in the *nix world for whom this 'free as in freedom or nothing' (which is the opposite of freedom BTW) means exactly two things. ... and jack left town

But then, PC-BSD has always been a bit more pragmatic, willing to listen to REAL WORLD concerns and a good deal less naive/idealistic than the 'Free Software' nutjobs who've taken over the rest of the *nix community.

If nothing else, it's nice to see a *nix that you go "I want to run commercial software" and the people behind it go "Let's see what we can do to make it work" instead of having them rant and rave for an hour about how it's "evil" to do so, calling you a sellout, and only after you basically threaten their lives get a simple "Oh, just enable __________" from 'just another user'. (Yes Gentoo, I'm looking at you.)

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RE[2]: Bad
by binarycrusader on Sat 24th Mar 2007 03:11 in reply to "RE: Bad"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

If nothing else, it's nice to see a *nix that you go "I want to run commercial software" and the people behind it go "Let's see what we can do to make it work" instead of having them rant and rave for an hour about how it's "evil" to do so, calling you a sellout, and only after you basically threaten their lives get a simple "Oh, just enable __________" from 'just another user'. (Yes Gentoo, I'm looking at you.)


Solaris has been like that for a while ;) I think at some point in the near future, OpenSolaris will be just as user-friendly as PCBSD, and just like PCBSD already has a great license.

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