Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 17:50 UTC, submitted by Charles A Landemaine
PC-BSD PC-BSD announced that it will deliver Opera in the next version of PC-BSD. Opera will be "one less thing you need to download after installation", as Matt Olander, CTO of iXsystems puts it, to get "a more usable system" out of your PC-BSD box.
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RE[2]: Bad
by binarycrusader on Sat 24th Mar 2007 03:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Bad"
binarycrusader
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2005-07-06

If nothing else, it's nice to see a *nix that you go "I want to run commercial software" and the people behind it go "Let's see what we can do to make it work" instead of having them rant and rave for an hour about how it's "evil" to do so, calling you a sellout, and only after you basically threaten their lives get a simple "Oh, just enable __________" from 'just another user'. (Yes Gentoo, I'm looking at you.)


Solaris has been like that for a while ;) I think at some point in the near future, OpenSolaris will be just as user-friendly as PCBSD, and just like PCBSD already has a great license.

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RE[3]: Bad
by deathshadow on Sat 24th Mar 2007 08:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad"
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2005-07-12

>> Solaris has been like that for a while

True, but Solaris (formerly sunOS) harkens back well before Linux was a twinkle in Linus' eye, and when everyone still thought of Stallman as 'that nutjob who wants to give it all away' assuming they even heard of him instead of the psuedo-religious messiah he is now...

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RE[4]: Bad
by kaiwai on Sat 24th Mar 2007 11:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Bad"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

True, but Solaris (formerly sunOS) harkens back well before Linux was a twinkle in Linus' eye, and when everyone still thought of Stallman as 'that nutjob who wants to give it all away' assuming they even heard of him instead of the psuedo-religious messiah he is now...

Hmm, if you look at Sun's history, they've never taken on GNU or Stallman, many of the times Sun employees were running Linux before it became 'in vogue' by the 'five minute fanboys', porting GNU software to Solaris, and had embraced openstandards long before Microsoft started ramming their crap through committes with $100 notes attached to them.

Just because Sun weren't jumping out of isles at the 'church of gnu' didn't mean that they weren't doing 'opensource' stuff in their own way - you need to realise that the way a company can interact with the marketplace is completely different to the way Stallman does - everything a person at Sun says might and can be interpeted and might impact on their share price and bottom line - unlike Sun, Stallman doesn't have to worry about such things, he can rant and rave, and it won't make a lick of difference.

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RE[3]: Bad
by kaiwai on Sat 24th Mar 2007 11:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris has been like that for a while ;) I think at some point in the near future, OpenSolaris will be just as user-friendly as PCBSD, and just like PCBSD already has a great license.

IMHO OpenSolaris is already for the desktop; I'm running SX:CE Build 60 and from my experience for the last couple of days IMHO it is very much ready.

As for commercial applications; ultimately, one can make as much noise to these companies as one wants, but at the end of the day, if the commercial companies are narrow minded enough not to port their applications to the said operating system, it isn't the fault of the operating system vendor.

What it should be, however, is a catalyst for the opensource community to rally around and create an opensource version of that application.

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