Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 24th Mar 2007 18:55 UTC, submitted by irbis
X11, Window Managers "The Compiz and Beryl teams are discussing a merger. Posts on the Compiz forum and Beryl mailing list indicate that the projects are discussing how to execute a merger and work together to deliver a single compositing window manager to give 'bling' to the Linux desktop."
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This could be an ideal move.
by BSDrama on Sat 24th Mar 2007 19:01 UTC
BSDrama
Member since:
2006-11-27

Seeing how Compiz and Beryl seem better to me than, for example, Aero anyways.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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Seeing how Compiz and Beryl seem better to me than, for example, Aero anyways.
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I dislike Microsoft as much as anyone, but these premature claims of victory are not good.

I have tried Compiz and Beryl on a number of machines, and in the cases that worked at all... each was very buggy.

I have not used Aero, but it would have to be awfully unstable for Compiz and Beryl to claim any sort of victory at this point.

IMO, we are still playing catch up. I am writing this from my laptop with a video chip set that is one of the many, many, many chip sets not even supported.

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Amaranth Member since:
2005-06-29

Aero is pretty bad. ;) People complain about compiz and beryl making java apps show up blank but in Vista java apps just turn off Aero completely. Flash does the same. And Aero only comes back on when you close the web browser that was running flash.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Again ypu can't blame compiz for not supporting your chipset. MS should be supporting your chipset, you pay 200 and up to get the OS you expect things to work, oh, wait you have to get the drivers form the manufacturer if you installed windows yourself nevermind vista. Linux kernel devs have offered to write drivers themselves under a NDA so there really is little excuse for hardware manufacturers to not support Linux.

As for Aero, I won't say its awful, I'll just say its resource intensive, while compiz/beryl will run on much older hardware with pretty much the same effects and animations and then some. Macosx runs even faster but with less shiny things such as pixel shaders (Leopard is supposed to address that). Compiz/Beryl is till in its infancy you have to remember that this project is one opensource with a lot of it being submitted by volunteers, two not very old. The project is about a year and change old while macosx had 4 versions and Vista had 5 years of development (the UI stuff was being worked even before that, as many MS people like to point out that Macosx wasn't the first to do the whole gui on video card thing). Compiz/beryl is still just starting, not to mention that initially compiz was just supposed to be a proof of concept which the (now beryl) community turned into what it is today. I must give credit where its due the enthusiasm of the (if not skill) of the compiz-quinn community is why we are here talkign about compiz. Everythign Dave has worked on is for inclusion in xorg, compiz was what he was workign on so that other WM such as metacity could see how to implement the features.

One thing that is great about Aero is that it switches mode depending on the level of support for a feature. The reason compiz can't do this is because it requires hardware acceleration and there is no current support for using 2d drivers only. to switch to a supported Wm requires that either metacity or kwin get started so the transition isn't anywhere near as smooth as it should be.

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