Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 17:50 UTC, submitted by Charles A Landemaine
PC-BSD PC-BSD announced that it will deliver Opera in the next version of PC-BSD. Opera will be "one less thing you need to download after installation", as Matt Olander, CTO of iXsystems puts it, to get "a more usable system" out of your PC-BSD box.
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DesktopBSD
by xTermOS on Sun 25th Mar 2007 12:59 UTC
xTermOS
Member since:
2007-03-25

PC-BSD is BAD. It's just a "MSWindows-BSD" and no more. PBI is awful! Every time when you install an application all needed libraries will be installed in program's folder like it is in Win32 (C:Program FilesMyProgram). So your system has many copies of each library instead of having one in /usr/lib. Soon all your free space on a hard drive disappears. Furthermore, PBI-packages are much larger than 'deb','rpm' or 'tar.bz2', and it's difficult to download them. And of course I hate the look of PBI-installer.
I think that DesktopBSD is much better then PC-BSD.

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RE: DesktopBSD
by zombie process on Sun 25th Mar 2007 17:20 in reply to "DesktopBSD"
zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

Uh, yeah. Maybe in the "No way mom! That's 200 gigs worth of libraries, not 200 gigs of pr0n!" way.

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RE: DesktopBSD
by antik on Mon 26th Mar 2007 09:59 in reply to "DesktopBSD"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

"PC-BSD is BAD. It's just a "MSWindows-BSD" and no more.
PC-BSD *is* FreeBSD. And former Microsoft fanboy like *cough* you *cough* should use Windows instead of talking nonsense about community driven project.

PBI is awful! Every time when you install an application all needed libraries will be installed in program's folder like it is in Win32 (C:Program FilesMyProgram).
You mean just like in Apple MacOS X- self-contained, without dependency hell? I know you miss all this dep hell- you are frustrated- install MS Windows (or GNU/Linux).

So your system has many copies of each library instead of having one in /usr/lib. Soon all your free space on a hard drive disappears. Furthermore, PBI-packages are much larger than 'deb','rpm' or 'tar.bz2', and it's difficult to download them.
OpenOffice.org2.1-PV2.1.pbi - 114MB
(you can install plain FreeBSD version into PC-BSD too with pkg_add):
OOo_2.1.0_FreeBSD62Intel_install_en-US.tbz - 114MB
OOo_2.1.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US.tar.gz - 120MB

# /usr/Programs
# du -sh OpenOffice.org2.1
332M OpenOffice.org2.1

Sorry to hear that your 400GB disk is full of pirated videos and music and you can`t free couple of gigabytes for your favorite applications. Or you just don`t know how to install software from ports in FreeBSD/PC-BSD.

And of course I hate the look of PBI-installer.
I know- take pill, take a deep breath and calm down- you can beat up your girlfriend for that later.

I think that DesktopBSD is much better then PC-BSD.
You mean that FreeBSD in DesktopBSD is better than FreeBSD in PC-BSD? Or what? This reminds me conversation of 5 year old boys: "My dad can beat up your dad any time, yeah!!" or "My fart smells better than your fart!!"

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RE: DesktopBSD
by Flatland_Spider on Mon 26th Mar 2007 18:39 in reply to "DesktopBSD"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Every time when you install an application all needed libraries will be installed in program's folder like it is in Win32 (C:Program FilesMyProgram). So your system has many copies of each library instead of having one in /usr/lib.


Oh Noes! It comes with everything it needs to run! ;)

This isn't a bad thing, and they designed it that way so that an updated lib won't break other apps. It's a good decision for a desktop oriented distro where people will be installing and deinstalling software on a regular basis.

Anyway, install from ports if you're that concerned.

Soon all your free space on a hard drive disappears. ... difficult to download them. And of course I hate the look of PBI-installer.


Yes, installing applications does eat up hard drive space.

Try downloading from a mirror closer to you, and not over WIFI.

The default look is ugly, but it can be tweaked to look pretty good. Some packages have already done this, and it looks much better.

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