Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Mar 2007 17:44 UTC, submitted by suka
Mono Project In a recent interview with the online edition of the Austrian daily Newspaper Der Standard, Mono project-lead Miguel de Icaza pleads for a cooperation between Mono and Microsoft's .Net: "I think that the deal should include a technical Mono/.NET collaboration, and even go as far as Microsoft recommending Mono for all of their developers looking at migration."
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RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:
by deb2006 on Sun 25th Mar 2007 21:49 UTC in reply to "RE: I do like GNOME, but:"
deb2006
Member since:
2006-06-26

Yes, I know that.

But the point is that the lawyers in Redmond are already evaluating things. MS _will_ eventually stand up and sue OSS for patent violation. Ballmer has to act quite soon if he does not want to appear a total idiot to the Micrposoft shareholders. I bet he'll start with mono - well, ok, just a not so wild guess.

Sorry to say this, but mono was a waste of time from the start. It's too close to the devil, and Novell has seen what happens when you embrace the devil.

Now it's time to talk about Java. It's not too late - thank God ...

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RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Almafeta on Sun 25th Mar 2007 21:54 in reply to "RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

It's too close to the devil

Isn't there a version of Godwin's law about comparing Microsoft to Satan?

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RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Rugmonster on Sun 25th Mar 2007 22:14 in reply to "RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:"
Rugmonster Member since:
2005-11-18

...mono was a waste of time from the start.

Considering C# is an ISO standards based language, I don't think you can say mono was a waste of time. It brings C# to the playing field for platforms other than Windows. If anything, it has allowed people to bring their ASP.NET apps written in C# to Linux based web servers. Yes, we've had Java for a long time and it's run things cross platform, but this is another option for the masses. Besides, there have been plenty of really good apps for Linux written in C# using Mono.

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RE[4]: I do like GNOME, but:
by dimosd on Mon 26th Mar 2007 02:25 in reply to "RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:"
dimosd Member since:
2006-02-10

Considering C# is an ISO standards based language, I don't think you can say mono was a waste of time.

That's a good point. It's not like Mono is completely walking on thin ice, from a legal perspective. (You always have to be wary of Microsoft, of course)

What's wrong with you people :-) C# is a good language. Java, since 5.0, is also good enough (since it copied over certain C# features). Personally, I wouldn't mind *either* of these languages prevailing the Linux desktop (both GTK and QT based). How long do you think a non-paid developer can go with C or C++ nowadays? I'd trade more features, due to easier development, to the skeleton apps written in C that want to pass as Gnome apps.

Conclusion: higher-level languages are developer friendly and grass roots OSS friendly. Embrace them!

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RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:
by jessta on Mon 26th Mar 2007 00:16 in reply to "RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:"
jessta Member since:
2005-08-17

I'm sure Java infringes on some MS patents, that's the nature of software patents, everybody who makes software is infringing on someone's patents.

But Java has Sun behind it, sun has money and other patents. So there is a good chance microsoft wouldn't attempt to sue over such patents.

Mono is currently being well supported by Novell, who have a deal with microsoft to licence microsoft patents.
Microsoft suing the Mono project would be very bad for Novell and hardly an advantage for Microsoft as Mono is less of a threat than say, OpenOffice or Firefox.

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