Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 24th Mar 2007 18:55 UTC, submitted by irbis
X11, Window Managers "The Compiz and Beryl teams are discussing a merger. Posts on the Compiz forum and Beryl mailing list indicate that the projects are discussing how to execute a merger and work together to deliver a single compositing window manager to give 'bling' to the Linux desktop."
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sbergman27
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2005-07-24

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Again ypu can't blame compiz for not supporting your chipset.
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I just want to clarify a point. I am not blaming compiz for not supporting my chip set. I don't care for the current composited desktops and prefer standard 2D, so it is not really an issue for me personally.

What I'm saying is that Compiz and Beryl are not better to that majority of people who cannot run them due to lack of driver support, no matter who's fault it is.

That is not a criticism of Compiz/Beryl. It is simply an observation about reality.

I am criticizing the overconfidence and premature claims of victory that I have been noticing among some of the fans. Not the people who are working so hard on the projects themselves.

Edited 2007-03-26 02:00

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cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

"What I'm saying is that Compiz and Beryl are not better to that majority of people who cannot run them due to lack of driver support, no matter who's fault it is."

This is my simple observation of reality.

Intel 60% of graphics market. Intel drivers work well with the current composited desktops, unlike say "Aero"

Let me just Clarify a point.
Nvidia *were* not well supported.
AMD Open-source drives were poor...but supported AXGL
AMD own Drivers are better(sic)..but don't support AXGL

Accelerated graphics on Linux is poor, and is getting better fast, its not stable; universally available...but its getting there about 4-5 for xorg 7.3 which I suspect will change everything.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I also agree with your post. Saying that Compiz/beryl is crap because it doesn't work with everything is wrong. Aero works with less hardware because the specs are so stringent. Linus will on older hardware with effects still working while on those machines Vista wil most likely shut them off. I say that Aero is not better because the majority of people that can't run it due to lack of hardware support, I say that Apples GUI is not better due to lack of hardware support. You see he same can be said of any OS. The majority of people need to stop whining becasue the majority of th people won't be abelt ot use their so called hardware with Macosx or Vista. Like the cyclops said ATI and Nvidia aren't the only game in town and the Nvidia drivers work pretty close to their windows counterpart.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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Intel 60% of graphics market. Intel drivers work well with the current composited desktops, unlike say "Aero"
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60% of *new* desktops, perhaps.

I agree that Intel's (relatively) new interest in Linux drivers is highly encouraging.

In fact, over the weekend I ordered an Intel Pro Wireless 2200 based wifi mini-pci card for my laptop to replace the Broadcom based one, simply on general principle.

(I also sent an email to Broadcom's local sales rep explaining Broadcom's poor support of Linux and why I had chosen to avoid their products in the future.)

So I am totally with you on Intel.

I expect that in a year or so, I just might be ready to claim a victory of sorts for Compiz/Beryl over Aero.

Just not today.

BTW, do Intel chipsets really not work with Aero? *Ouch* for Microsoft. As you say, Intel is an important supplier.

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