Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Mar 2007 17:44 UTC, submitted by suka
Mono Project In a recent interview with the online edition of the Austrian daily Newspaper Der Standard, Mono project-lead Miguel de Icaza pleads for a cooperation between Mono and Microsoft's .Net: "I think that the deal should include a technical Mono/.NET collaboration, and even go as far as Microsoft recommending Mono for all of their developers looking at migration."
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RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Lambda on Mon 26th Mar 2007 02:16 UTC in reply to "RE: I do like GNOME, but:"
Lambda
Member since:
2006-07-28


The debate is over which framework should be used as the default for future development if GNOME developers choose to go down the road of having a managed environment


You're quite clueless regarding the antipathy towards Java, whether it's open source or not. You make the same bad logical analysis that developers are going to flock to Java just because it's almost open source.

The debate isn't over, because Gnome won't have an official runtime. Java is hated for various reasons, Mono is hated because it's MS, and other developers would rather stay away from both of them and use Python or Ruby. Gnome is a C platform - plain and simple, with various bindings that developers use for various applications that might or might not make it into the official Gnome applications releases.

With that being said, I do think, however, that GNOME need to think long and carefully about using Java - use it where it works well, but don't use it for the sake of simply being able to say, "look at us! we use Java!"

That's something you don't have to worry about. Java will be ignored only a little less than it is now.

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RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Moochman on Tue 27th Mar 2007 19:15 in reply to "RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:"
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

You're quite clueless regarding the antipathy towards Java, whether it's open source or not. You make the same bad logical analysis that developers are going to flock to Java just because it's almost open source.

You talk about Java as if no one uses it. Sounds to me like you personally don't use it, so you maintain this illusion to justify your decision to yourself.

Java is hated for various reasons

In other words, you hate it, for reasons you don't care to disclose.

Java will be ignored only a little less than it is now.

You're right, it's just being ignored so much.
http://www.eclipse.org
http://www.limewire.org
http://azureus.sourceforge.net
http://www.neooffice.org
http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/qtjambi-techpreview

And no one's interested in developing anything new for Java on the desktop.

http://community.java.net/projects/community/javadesktop
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/tools/nb_guibuilder...

Sorry, you seem to be blinded by your own prejudices. Please, go back to your hole.

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RE[4]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Lambda on Wed 28th Mar 2007 04:16 in reply to "RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:"
Lambda Member since:
2006-07-28

Please try to pay attention. Eclipse, limewire, or any of the others in your list have nothing to do with Gnome.

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