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RE[6]: Hmmm
by sbergman27 on Mon 2nd Apr 2007 07:58 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Hmmm"
sbergman27
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2005-07-24

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Interesting idea letting others do the polishing, though of course Debian itself probably wouldn't like it hehe
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Possibly not. But it would only really be an acknowledgment of a situation which has already existed for years.

It was 3 years between Woody and Sarge. It's coming up on two years gestation for Etch. (Amusingly, Wikipedia lists the expected release date of Etch as... today: April 2, 2007.)

All the devs would have to do is what they've been doing, sans the idea of a formal release every actually occurring.

And besides, eventually they are going to run out of Toy Story characters and won't have a choice. ;-)

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RE[7]: Hmmm
by da_Chicken on Mon 2nd Apr 2007 09:52 in reply to "RE[6]: Hmmm"
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2006-01-01

Amusingly, Wikipedia lists the expected release date of Etch as... today: April 2, 2007.

That Wikipedia entry is based on the following release schedule (posted in 13 Mar 2007):
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/03/msg00012.html

Since then, there's been another update (announcing a further delay) to the release schedule:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/03/msg00023.html

The Etch release is now expected to be out sometime next week.

What I find amusing in this situation is that the original release schedule (targeted for the beginning of December 2006) aimed to cut down the real-world testing time and to release Etch with more or less up-to-date versions of applications. Now the four-months long delay has allowed a lot of extra real-world testing to reveal many hidden bugs to be fixed and, as a result, the Etch release has become another rock-solid high quality release -- the kind that Debian is known and appreciated for. The applications, of course, are not quite as up-to-date now as they were four months ago -- but this, again, is not anything unusual for a stable Debian release.

Some commentators have chanted doom and gloom for Debian because of the delayed Etch release and they've predicted Debian's immediate death. But it's precisely this delay that has greatly improved the quality in Etch. Amusing, isn't it? ;-)

And besides, eventually they are going to run out of Toy Story characters and won't have a choice. ;-)

Not any time soon, though. ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters

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RE[8]: Hmmm
by sbergman27 on Mon 2nd Apr 2007 15:34 in reply to "RE[7]: Hmmm"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Two comments.

If they waited another year or two for an Etch release, bugs would *still* be getting filed at that time. It would have been pretty amazing if the bug reports had just stopped after November, wouldn't it? So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. That they should wait until there are no bug reports to release?

Secondly, release plans for next week or no, it's nowhere near too late for the "Fat Lady" to come down with a nasty case of laryngitis.

All it would take would be for someone to reread the GPL, thinking that they had noticed something that nobody else had noticed before, and posting their thoughts to debian-legal. The resulting uncertainty, hysteria, and consequent flame fest, could easily hold off the actual release for at least a year... because Debian is Debian. ;-)

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