Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 23:18 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Sun's CEO Jonathan Schwartz loves to splatter the media with the line that Windows, Red Hat Linux and Solaris stand as the only operating systems of significance in the server kingdom. We've spent the last few years struggling to appreciate the seriousness of that claim. Sun's declining system sales failed to inspire much optimism about the company conquering the data centers of tomorrow with a deflating 'venerable' OS. A couple of recent items, however, have tweaked our view of Schwartz's favored claim. It could well be that Solaris - of all things - provides the 'iPod moment' Sun seeks." In the meantime, Sun upped the speed of some of its SPARC chips.
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Where to start?
by jackson on Wed 4th Apr 2007 12:58 UTC
jackson
Member since:
2005-06-29

As an experienced Linux user, I would like to give Solaris a go. I think I now understand the differences between Solaris 10, Solaris Express Developer Editition, and Solaris Express Community Edition. I think as a regular home user I would want to start with the Community Edition.

The problem for me is... where to start learning about it? The opensolaris.org website has got too much going on. I can't find anything there and what is there seems to be geared towards developers not end users. I guess I'm looking for a "How to get started with Solaris Express Community Edition" type of instructions on how to install and get going. Is there any installation manual? I don't see a link to documentation on the opensolaris.org site and what documentation I could find seems to be about building opensolaris, not using the community edition. There are tons of mailing lists but where do Solaris newbies go? Is there any community driven site like linuxquestions.org or someplace like that?

I am very interested in Solaris -- everything just seems so scattered that I can't figure out where to start.

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RE: Where to start?
by csousa on Wed 4th Apr 2007 13:20 in reply to "Where to start?"
csousa Member since:
2006-02-04

You can start by reading in http://docs.sun.com about solaris 10
(like you know opensolaris is solaris 10 with some improvements) and have google and http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/#portal to search the rest.

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RE: Where to start?
by Luminair on Wed 4th Apr 2007 13:24 in reply to "Where to start?"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

Solaris Express Community Edition isn't as stable as their web page suggests. There is still a good chance of getting a stinker that has half the OS broken. I know this from the last build I tried ;) Unless you know why you need a cutting edge Solaris, this newbie recommends sticking with the most mature release you can handle...

Installation is blindly easy. It looks like Solaris from the dark ages, but it is easy. What you (and I) really need is for the community wiki to get up and running with some FAQs and guides. I think that will happen soon. In the mean time, you have the man page docs and the support forum.

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RE[2]: Where to start?
by kaiwai on Wed 4th Apr 2007 14:51 in reply to "RE: Where to start?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris Express Community Edition isn't as stable as their web page suggests. There is still a good chance of getting a stinker that has half the OS broken. I know this from the last build I tried ;) Unless you know why you need a cutting edge Solaris, this newbie recommends sticking with the most mature release you can handle...

Installation is blindly easy. It looks like Solaris from the dark ages, but it is easy. What you (and I) really need is for the community wiki to get up and running with some FAQs and guides. I think that will happen soon. In the mean time, you have the man page docs and the support forum.


Geeze, what problems were you experiencing? I've had nothing but perfect stability - hadn't noticed a single problem; if you are experiencing problems, no one in their right mind would recommend Solaris 10 for new users - download Solaris Express Developer Edition; its leading edge without the loss of 2 litres of blood in the process.

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RE[2]: Where to start?
by binarycrusader on Wed 4th Apr 2007 19:06 in reply to "RE: Where to start?"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Installation is blindly easy. It looks like Solaris from the dark ages, but it is easy. What you (and I) really need is for the community wiki to get up and running with some FAQs and guides. I think that will happen soon. In the mean time, you have the man page docs and the support forum.


Coming right up, one community wiki:

http://www.genunix.org/wiki

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RE: Where to start?
by shapeshifter on Wed 4th Apr 2007 23:20 in reply to "Where to start?"
shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

There are tons of mailing lists but where do Solaris newbies go? Is there any community driven site like linuxquestions.org or someplace like that?


There are no Solaris newbies.
There is only a bunch of 20+ year admins whose shackles are welded to their Sun server chassis.
Newbies try to install Solaris. Find out that it either doesn't install or that most their hardware is not supported.
And even if their hardware is supported (i.e. they install on an ancient box) and Solaris does install, then they find out it's so hard to use and the GUI is so bad, and there is no support, that they go and install Ubuntu.
So to find the community go to
http://ubuntuforums.org and you'll find really unmatched, thriving, and very active community.

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RE[2]: Where to start?
by binarycrusader on Thu 5th Apr 2007 02:31 in reply to "RE: Where to start?"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

" There are tons of mailing lists but where do Solaris newbies go? Is there any community driven site like linuxquestions.org or someplace like that?


There are no Solaris newbies.
There is only a bunch of 20+ year admins whose shackles are welded to their Sun server chassis.
Newbies try to install Solaris. Find out that it either doesn't install or that most their hardware is not supported.
"

Bzzt. Wrong. I hadn't used Solaris personally until the beginning of 2005. Now I use it everyday.

And even if their hardware is supported (i.e. they install on an ancient box) and Solaris does install, then they find out it's so hard to use and the GUI is so bad, and there is no support, that they go and install Ubuntu.


Nope. If they're really interested, they learn, like I did. Just as I learned Gentoo, FreeBSD, DragonFly BSD, SkyOS, and others...

So to find the community go to
http://ubuntuforums.org and you'll find really unmatched, thriving, and very active community.


So go to www.opensolaris.org and you'll find a lively, thriving, and very active community since this story is about Solaris and NOT Ubuntu.

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