For the first time in its 7 years of existence, some decent statement has been released concering the legality of Zeta. Access, the current owner of Be, Inc.'s IP, states: "We have sent 'cease and desist' letters to YellowTab on a number of occasions, which have been uniformly ignored. If Herr Korz feels that he holds a legitimate license to the BeOS code he's been using, we're completely unaware of it, and I'd be fascinated to see him produce any substantiation for that claim." Update: Bernd Korz has replied on his blog.
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Member since:2005-08-19
GLTeapot runs NOTICABLY faster in BeOS MAX than in BeOS R5 PE (WIND Distro, which is what I use) or BeOS R5 PE
For gods sake. BeOS Max *IS* BeOS R5 PE (only with 3rd party drivers/apps/patches). If it runs faster it has nothing to do with any changes made to the *system* itself. It's solely based on BeOS R5 PE by Be Inc.
Member since:2005-07-27
Then what is being done differently? I run my normal BeOS install, I get 90-109fps. I run BeOS MAX (Live CD, mind you) and I get around 115-120fps. Same system. What does BeOS MAX have that I don't? I want it, that's all!
Word is, enabling SSE instructions can give you that kinda boost, but I have yet to figure out (or be shown) how to do it on my system with my other install (Wind distro; no longer available, but has quite a bit less "stuff" in it).
Member since:2007-03-12
I, personally, would rather have a lean, efficient, fast install of BeOS R5 PE and go looking for the stuff I *WANT* added to it. I think the very least that should be included/enabled is the patches that allow it to run on modern hardware. Nothing more. Nothing less.
That's a sound enough view. BeOS PE and BeOS (warzed to the) MAX is a bit like the difference between a retail version of Windows and some of the awful vendor versions that have been shipped. Mostly, you'd have to strip it all out and put something worth having on. That's a hassle and amateurish.
I've already said what I'd like to see in a future effort by Vasper based on Haiku, and the same applies here. Most people just want the OS to work out of the box and core best of breed applications. Apple does very well on that basis. The kitchen sink distributions are for the script kiddie brigade.
Vasper can do what he wants but mainstream take up of Haiku is where it's at. Most people just want browsing, email and newsgroups, office applications, image editing, archive and a few other tools like, say, a database server. The rest is noise.
Edited 2007-04-04 21:11
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2005-07-27
I downloaded BeOS MAX v3 awhile ago and installed it. I, too, was surprised by how much "stuff" was in it... everything but the kitchen sink!
However, I have noticed one thing in particular... GLTeapot runs NOTICABLY faster in BeOS MAX than in BeOS R5 PE (WIND Distro, which is what I use) or BeOS R5 PE, or Haiku. Something around 120+ fps, when my system gets around 90-109fps.
What is BeOS MAX doing (or what is enabled) that improves software OpenGL so significantly? Tell me what I need to do to get that boost in my Wind distro or Haiku. Please!
To call BeOS MAX such a derogatory title as "$hitware" is quite excessive, in my opinion. To me, BeOS, in ANY incarnation (no matter HOW much stuff is included) doesn't deserve to be called off so disparagingly.
I, personally, would rather have a lean, efficient, fast install of BeOS R5 PE and go looking for the stuff I *WANT* added to it. I think the very least that should be included/enabled is the patches that allow it to run on modern hardware. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Calling BeOS MAX "$hitware" makes you sound more like you hate BeOS, period, than just that you don't like that particular "distro".
Vasper is to be congratulated for his efforts... not beaten down. He's trying to make our lives easier, but having everything at our fingertips.
Do you ram your car into a Boy Scout helping a little old lady across the street, because the light is green and you still have to wait til he's gotten across with her? That's about the equivilent of your insult, concerning BeOS MAX.
Edited 2007-04-04 20:58