Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Apr 2007 21:29 UTC
Zeta A lot of things have happened in the past few days concerning Zeta, BeOS, and Haiku. In order to create some order in the chaos, Eugenia and I have created a rough timeline of what happened the past 6-7 years. Read on for the timeline and some more thoughts on the matter. Update: Magnusoft ceases distribution of Zeta. Update II: Access answered the questions posed in the article.
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RE[9]: "Just the facts, ma'am..."
by El-Al on Fri 6th Apr 2007 23:05 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: "Just the facts, ma'am...""
El-Al
Member since:
2006-04-17

"No, it isn't:
sales figures of Zeta were far below Magnussoft's expectations. Continuation of financing the project is economically no longer viable. "

Do you, or did you work for Magnussoft? Do you know _for sure_ the above statement to be fact, or are you just quoting their public statement on this issue?

What authority do you have to repeat their statements in _bold_ letters? ;o)

Ever cross your mind that this could be the most _convenient_ statement Magnussoft could make without having to admit in a public way that they(MS) had been taken for a ride over the code legality issue by Korz?

If I were releasing statement on behalf of Magnussoft, I know what I would rather have the general public believe...the last thing I would want is to admit that my company had been stupid enough to be duped.

And no, I'm not trying to defend weak sales of Zeta they are IMO, dismal. Consider though, that this weakness might just be a way for them to drop the whole damned mess that is Zeta.

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lucky13 Member since:
2007-04-01

Ever cross your mind that this could be the most _convenient_ statement Magnussoft could make without having to admit in a public way that they(MS) had been taken for a ride over the code legality issue by Korz?

1. Re "convenient statements" and "admitting in a public way": The problem is they've subsequently made one in relation to withdrawing Zeta completely.

2. Re "taken for a ride over code legality": The problem with your arguments is they would've withdrawn it even sooner.

Consider though, that this weakness might just be a way for them to drop the whole damned mess that is Zeta.

I give them a little more credit for being ethical than you do. First, they didn't impugn Bernd even after he wrote some unflattering things on his blog and even hinted that he might consider opening the very code for which Magnussoft had contractual commercial distribution rights for the rest of this year. Second, they sought legal counsel as soon they learned there was a licensing issue. Third, they've sought Bernd's cooperation. Fourth, they immediately moved to cease distribution once they determined Access owned the IP and said there was no licensing agreement.

While I believe they should've had a copy of any license agreement with Palm, Access, etc., in hand before even ever agreeing in principle to pick up any of the broken pieces of yellowTab, I think they've done the right thing under the circumstances. They didn't whitewash anything, they've been forthright.

So no, I won't don a tinfoil beanie and cast unfounded aspersions like you have.

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El-Al Member since:
2006-04-17

LOL, I don't often get dragged into mud-slinging on public forums...

"So no, I won't don a tinfoil beanie and cast unfounded aspersions like you have."

WTF! I have no need nor intention whatsoever to "don a tinfoil beanie" as you put it.

I am simply reluctant to accept that the public has, as yet, all the 'facts' (for want of a better word) at their disposal to make informed judgements of this situation.

I am also acutely aware that 'fact' does not always equal 'truth' in situations like these.

The situation does not look good for Bernd Korz admittedly but lets hear what he has to say.

As for casting aspersions, I don't believe I have. On the other hand, reading your posts I notice that you make several spiteful, somewhat damaging remarks about personal preferences not to mention sacastic remarks about the intelligence of others.

Fanboy
Sherlock
Einstein

Hmmm....are these not unfounded aspersions?

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