Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 6th Apr 2007 21:23 UTC, submitted by michuk
Window Managers "IceWM is perfect for Windows' 'immigrants' especially for users with older computers. IceWM will be suitable for advanced users who are looking for a lightweight and simple window manager." More here.
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What's missing is...
by blixel on Sat 7th Apr 2007 03:46 UTC
blixel
Member since:
2005-07-06

What's missing is ... high quality light weight applications that have a consistent look and feel.

I recently installed Debian on an old 500MHz system (which I upgraded from 333MHz), and 2x128MB (256MB total) of RAM (which I upgraded from 2x32MB).

Honestly, I was just experimenting with the old system to see what I could do with it. What I consistently found was that the operating system generally wasn't a problem. I tried Win98SE, BeOS 4.5, BeOS 5.0.3 Pro, Zeta 1.2, Win2K, and Debian (whatever the weekly build was of Etch at the time.)

Except for Zeta and Win2K, all the other operating systems really did "fly" when doing basic operations. Especially BeOS 5.0.3 Pro.

Unfortunately, as soon as you load Firefox, Abiword, Thunderbird, or some of these other applications that are (at least were at one time) considered "light", the machine just dies.

IceWM was one of the Window Managers I was running during the Debian install. So - I am in fact on topic here. But the main point I'm getting at is that you can run the lightest Window Manager of all time, or even no Window Manager at all with X11 (just use -geometry to place all your apps) ... but are there enough light weight apps to compliment the light weight Window Managers these days?

The whole point of Phoenix (which became Firebird, which became Firefox) was to be a highly functional, graphical, and LIGHT browser alternative to Mozilla. But I think 1.0.7 was the last version that felt even remotely light weight.

leafpad/mousepad is probably my favorite graphical app. Seriously.

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RE: What's missing is...
by trenchsol on Sat 7th Apr 2007 13:30 in reply to "What's missing is..."
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

Blixel, we are all missing high quality light weight applications, even those without consistent look and feel. Regardless of window manager or desktp environment we are using.

I am afraid that we will be missing them in the future, as well. Heavy weight environments are "feature rich" and developers like them, they need to code less.

Perhaps we will end up using Java/Swing apps. They have slow start, but bigger apps are not much slower than smaller ones. As hardware grows more powefull, Java might become lightweight some day.

DG

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RE: What's missing is...
by Sophotect on Sat 7th Apr 2007 13:36 in reply to "What's missing is..."
Sophotect Member since:
2006-04-26

I can understand that perfectly. But...for systems with specs that low you maybe should build your own packages with optional dependencies left out like the minilivedistros like puppylinux or damnsmalllinux do. Or try something like zenwalk.

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