Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Apr 2007 21:29 UTC
Zeta A lot of things have happened in the past few days concerning Zeta, BeOS, and Haiku. In order to create some order in the chaos, Eugenia and I have created a rough timeline of what happened the past 6-7 years. Read on for the timeline and some more thoughts on the matter. Update: Magnusoft ceases distribution of Zeta. Update II: Access answered the questions posed in the article.
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RE[6]: Berd Korz' blog offline
by tonestone57 on Mon 9th Apr 2007 02:19 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Berd Korz' blog offline"
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If Magnussoft obtains the license from Bernd, so why the difficult procedure for the upgraders ? (sending in copy and activation key)
Why no full version of ZETA 1.5 ?

Next week they will explain part of #3 below. #1 & #2 will not be answered, but the short of it was $$$ ( money / profit ). Look at my answers below.

yT Zeta 1.2 had no activation key if I can remember correct. So, Magnussoft wanted to make sure you really had the original & not pirated version (from file sharing) before upgrading you.

OR (the other reason)

Sending in cd & activation key was so users do not sell their 1.0, 1.1 or 1.2 cds on the used market.
This forces new users that want Zeta to buy it new from Magnussoft @ full price.

Zeta 1.5 Upgrade Only?
Magnussoft makes higher profit, off new users, doing it this way than producing full 1.5 version.

1.21 Full $89.95
1.5 Upgrade $39.95
Total = ~ $130.00 ( two cds for one price of $130 )

If Zeta 1.5 Full existed, what price could they charge for it? $89.95, $99.95?

For those updating from 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 to 1.21, then to 1.5. You had to buy "direct" from Magnussoft ( 1.21 Update and makes sense to get 1.5 at same time to save on shipping cost ).
1.21 Update $10Eur
1.5 Upgrade $29Eur
Total = $39 Euro paid to Magnussoft

I believe Magnussoft obtained distribution license with Bernd, because Magnussoft does not have the source code, Bernd does. ( ie: Bernd (or yT?) has license agreement with Be / Palm, Magnussoft has distribution license with Bernd (or yT) ).

When the yellowTab site was around, I'm very sure Magnussoft was called a distributor ( and never the owner of Zeta - who still is Bernd ). See here:

And, if yT liquidator is making official statement next week ( instead of Bernd ), what does that mean?

Well, Bernd is saying that yT (yellowTab) has the license agreement with Palm / Be and yT is responsible instead ( because yT is bankrupt, no fear of Access lawsuit against yT and Bernd can walk away too ). And who controlled yT & was CEO then? I guess yT just ran itself? :-)

Ok, next week should be more fun!

Edited 2007-04-09 02:20

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Leszek Lesner Member since:

> #1
>yT Zeta 1.2 had no activation key if I can remember >correct. So, Magnussoft wanted to make sure you >really had the original & not pirated version (from >file sharing) before upgrading you.

>OR (the other reason)

>Sending in cd & activation key was so users do not >sell their 1.0, 1.1 or 1.2 cds on the used market.
>This forces new users that want Zeta to buy it new >from Magnussoft @ full price.

Here another interesting reason:
The insolvency administrator was the one with whom Magnusoft did an contract which allowed them to distribute ZETA. It is more or less a fact if you read the last news posted on YTs website.
As YT has no employees anymore and Bernd isn't CVO anylonger there would be only the insolvency adminsitrator. One fact is clear Magnussoft never had the right to check the YT Database to gain the list of users who have the right to upgrade to ZETA 1.21. (even if Bernd has a copy of this database it has to run through yt [insolvency administrator] because yt holds the rights of ZETA)

Let think about this.
If that isn't true and the contract was only between Magnussoft and Bernd so why this complicated upgrade procedure ? Fear of the illegal copies downloadable via p2p networks or torrent ?
I don't think so. If that should really be true Magnussoft even had the chance to make the ZETA 1.21 activation as annoying as in ZETA 1.0 or 1.1 to prevent illegal usage.
Secondly it was really an annoying procedure for most of the ZETA buyers (former yt buyers) and it is very very unrealistic to say that Magnussoft or Bernd had any interest in making the upgrade procedure so annoying. Btw. this upgrade procedure cost some old ZETA users that did not want to send in there legitamte copies of ZETA 1.0 or there bills of any ZETA copy they bought.

It is in fact a little complicated but it shows me that former yt or the insolvency administrator of yt is in some way connected to all this stuff.

Edited 2007-04-09 07:17

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