Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Apr 2007 16:35 UTC, submitted by Flatline
Windows "Anyone else remember when Microsoft used to talk about making Windows Vista (or Longhorn, as it was then known) a fast-booting operating system. Fast, as in cold boots that were 50 percent faster than those possible with Windows XP? Something obviously went awry. As Computerworld is reporting, a number of Vista users are none too happy about Vista boot-up times. Some are questioning whether Microsoft is advocating that users just put Vista into sleep mode, as opposed to shutting down systems on a daily basis, to mask the sluggish boot up."
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by imstillatwork on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:00 UTC
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Member since:
2007-03-22

Core Duo 1.7 laptop is by no means a 'fast' computer.
Boot times (not bios...that's not windows) is about 15 seconds to log on promt. Never had xp on here to compare - but that's not 'slow' Not super fast, but it ain't slow. although faster IS better I am in no way held, back, locked in, or otherwise hurt by waiting 15 seconds in the event that I actually fully shut down / restart.

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by tmanop2006 on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:12 in reply to "????"
tmanop2006 Member since:
2006-10-10

I had a dual boot [for a while, until I realized that Fedora was useless] with Vista and Fedora on an HP nc8430. Vista booted in about the time you mentioned...13 - 15 seconds [after bios] to a logon prompt. Fedora took 45 seconds. I'm sure if I read manuals, recompiled code, Googled for a few hours, and played with "*.conf" files I could have reduced the boot time, but I actually have to work.

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by jebb on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:46 in reply to "RE: ????"
jebb Member since:
2006-07-06

Lame attempt at trolling. This is osnews, by the way, so if tinkering with various OSes for the sake of it doesn't appeal to you, I suggest you go check how Paul Thurrott is doing.

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by suryad on Wed 11th Apr 2007 21:12 in reply to "RE: ????"
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

Can I ask how he is trolling because I can report the same experience with the boot process...with XP not Vista in my case.

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by mark_in_rdjbrasil on Thu 12th Apr 2007 17:48 in reply to "RE: ????"
mark_in_rdjbrasil Member since:
2005-11-30

suryad, you ask how he is trolling ? well, i think you need to see the movie " monty python the holy grail" and observe very closely the witch scene. ( q. how do you she's a witch ? a. because she looks like one ! ) anyway, that's my take on why jebb thinks tmanop2006 is a troll.

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by Flatline on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:30 in reply to "????"
Flatline Member since:
2006-03-06

Core duos actually *are* pretty fast machines, actually, but since that is what many Vista systems are running on, that is irrelevant for the topic (should I mod myself down for going off topic?).

I suspect that many of these complaints are due to underspecced systems (the Best Buy near here seems to really enjoy giving users 512Mb of memory, even on Vista systems).

Having said that, on my test system at work, the boot time for Vista is actually twice that of XP on the same exact hardware. There is no indication of any problems in device manager, the system logs, etc. By the way, the system rates a 2.8 (I think; it's been a while since I ran the thing) on Microsoft's performance meter.

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by MightyPenguin on Wed 11th Apr 2007 20:05 in reply to "RE: ????"
MightyPenguin Member since:
2005-11-18

As always Vista boot times will vary by HW. Mostly I think it has to do with the drivers . If you're using all the default Vista drivers included with the OS you'll probably get better boot times than with downloaded 3rd party drivers, especially legacy drivers.

So once you throw in crufty HP printer drivers, ATI video drivers, Creative audio drivers, and random USB devices you'll probably see boot times go up.

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by Laurence on Thu 12th Apr 2007 20:08 in reply to "RE: ????"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Core duos actually *are* pretty fast machines, actually, but since that is what many Vista systems are running on, that is irrelevant for the topic


It's not what that many Vista systems are running on though. Just take a look through PC World* at their budget systems (be it laptop of desktop). All have Vista on and all grossly underspeced for the bloated OS.

* I'm sure most over high-street IT / electrical store are the same.

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by Alex Forster on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:32 in reply to "????"
Alex Forster Member since:
2005-08-12

So I have my DSLR that can take decent videos, and I have a fresh install of Vista Ultimate on my Acer Aspire 5102wlmi (google it for specs). Here's a video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ICBUMEdUEs

(didn't realize you could see me that well while I was taking it--would have waved or something)

I don't really have an opinion on boot times either way. I don't think it's slow, and I don't think it's amazingly fast. However, I did realize instantly "why" they made the shutdown button hibernate by default. That's hell to change, by the way.

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by Aaron1 on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:45 in reply to "????"
Aaron1 Member since:
2006-01-19

Maybe the fast boot times are when using ReadyBoost(?) with those hybrid drives. 15 seconds isn't bad. Besides most of my problems with boot times are due to 3rd party apps running stuff at startup.

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by dylansmrjones on Wed 11th Apr 2007 20:12 in reply to "????"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

15 seconds on a Core Duo 1.7 ... that's pretty bad. It may not be a speedmonster compared with what you can buy today (relatively), but it is a speedmonster. Heck, it shouldn't take more than 5-6 seconds with such a machine.

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by Ford Prefect on Thu 12th Apr 2007 09:21 in reply to "????"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

You have the newest desktop processor architecture out there and claim it being "not fast"?! Hell, what are you people thinking how fast a computer should be then?


I have an old Athlon XP 1900+ system and tend to say it's "fast enough". It boots in 16 seconds, btw.:
http://fopref.meinungsverstaerker.de/div/bootchart1.png


It seems to me that everybody gets used to that only bleeding edge hadware can operate "fast". I just wonder how people where able to do DTP and 3D rendering in 1990 then...

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by Babi Asu on Thu 12th Apr 2007 11:07 in reply to "RE: ????"
Babi Asu Member since:
2006-02-11

Actually there is no point to have fast boot time, but after booting you still turn on all needed services manually. I'm not using vista, but in OSX, I never shut down my MBP, I just simply close the lid and let it in sleep mode. So I agree with hibernate instead shutdown suggestion.

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