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Hardware, Embedded Systems In this article, I'm going to explore the idea that the 8 bit home computer not only had a great deal to offer the prehistoric early-humans of 1985 but that it may also have a place in the modern world; perhaps, there is something that we can learn from it. Having identified the laudable, worthwhile elements of this class of machine, I'm going to make some suggestions towards a scheme that would embody these characteristics in the form of a machine that would have a place within the modern world.
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hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by marcof on Wed 18th Apr 2007 12:00 UTC
marcof
Member since:
2005-08-02

Let's see what's available at the moment:

there's the OneChip MSX: http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx.html

essentially an MSX computer, but with OS hardware, using VHDL to implement most stuff. Still 100% MSX compatible in its basic form. But with VHDL this could turn into a superMSX (or any other machine that is developed in VHDL of course)

Then the OS.. hangon, there's something brewing in the 8bit world as well. and it's called "SymbOS": http://symbos.de/

A very nice window like environment.

And oh, wait.. yes, you CAN play MP3s already. oh wait, internet is also possible, there's only a lack of a good browser. And other stuff as well.

You may be surprised how far people have come, with just 8 bits. The saying is still true: Big fast computers breed lazy fat programmers. 8 bit rules :-)

Edited 2007-04-18 12:01

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RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by load_mic on Wed 18th Apr 2007 12:19 in reply to "hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
load_mic Member since:
2005-12-13

Yeah... I guess this proves that its not the size of your data bus that counts but how you use it ;-)

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RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by brewmastre on Wed 18th Apr 2007 12:23 in reply to "hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

Let's see what's available at the moment:

there's the OneChip MSX: http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx.html

essentially an MSX computer, but with OS hardware, using VHDL to implement most stuff. Still 100% MSX compatible in its basic form. But with VHDL this could turn into a superMSX (or any other machine that is developed in VHDL of course)

Then the OS.. hangon, there's something brewing in the 8bit world as well. and it's called "SymbOS": http://symbos.de/

A very nice window like environment.

And oh, wait.. yes, you CAN play MP3s already. oh wait, internet is also possible, there's only a lack of a good browser. And other stuff as well.

You may be surprised how far people have come, with just 8 bits. The saying is still true: Big fast computers breed lazy fat programmers. 8 bit rules :-)Edited 2007-04-18 12:01


Your bring some very good points to the table. Next time let's try it without the sarcasm ;)

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RE[2]: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by marcof on Wed 18th Apr 2007 13:33 in reply to "RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
marcof Member since:
2005-08-02

I wasn't actually being sarcastic on purpose. Now I read my own post, and see it can be read like that indeed. Not intended. The "oh wait" was more an exclamation on "look, this is possible as well... hangon, look a bit deeper.. that too" etc etc ;)

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RE[2]: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by CowMan on Sat 21st Apr 2007 22:41 in reply to "RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
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2006-09-26

hmm. On so little pixels, they really should not have tried to emulate the Win9x+ style GUI. Perhaps more familurarity than anything, I way prefer the more appropriate interfaces of Epoc-based systems or the PILI/etc. OS that the Sharp ZR-3000/5700/etc. ran. Windowing is mostly futile, sufficient cut-paste support basically eliminates the need on such cramped space.

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RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by Kochise on Wed 18th Apr 2007 13:10 in reply to "hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Oh wait, now you have a messed up OS with overlapping windows, complex UI, all like in modern OSes, but on 8 bits computers !

Still, where are the DVD playback facilities, USB printer, digital photo editing ?

Kochise

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RE[2]: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by Accident on Wed 18th Apr 2007 13:29 in reply to "RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
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2005-07-29

Hell, the Commordore 64 w/ GEOS can do all the that.
Has all that ex/ DVD playback. Damn I miss the old days!

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RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by obi_oni on Wed 18th Apr 2007 16:03 in reply to "hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
obi_oni Member since:
2006-02-15

Wow, that looks fun. I started out on MSX in 1983, brings back memories. Well, maybe those memories are a bit pink-tinted in retrospect, but still.

It's a nice bit of retro-computing, but a bit expensive though.

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RE: hmm.. 8 bit computers..
by ml2mst on Wed 18th Apr 2007 20:05 in reply to "hmm.. 8 bit computers.."
ml2mst Member since:
2005-08-27

Funny, I was pretty curious about this article until the author started his proposal. That' s when I gave up, because these where my first thoughts:

Let's see what's available at the moment:

there's the OneChip MSX:
http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx.html


Probaply the author has no clue what a MSX is, so let' s check out Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX

Never too old to learn (even about retro computing) :-)

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