Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Apr 2007 22:12 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Even more Haiku news today. Oliver Ruiz Dorantes, who will be monitoring GSoC student Salvatore Benedetto coming summer, has started work on what will become an office suite for Haiku. His blog already shows the first screenshots of the project. He is seeking for help on the project, so if you have the experience, feel free t help him out. Also, a new batch of icons has been added to Haiku.
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RE[7]: Why not
by lucky13 on Thu 19th Apr 2007 17:09 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Why not"
lucky13
Member since:
2007-04-01

If you had read the sentence as it was intended to be read

Maybe if you'd written it the way you wanted it to be read...

I stand by my bad experiences with configuring Linux _and_ failed Linux installs...

I'm not surprised. :-)

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RE[8]: Why not
by Valhalla on Thu 19th Apr 2007 18:25 in reply to "RE[7]: Why not"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

lucky13 wrote:
"Certainly would be easier than totally reinventing the wheel -- but that's what Haiku is all about, eh."

no, it's not reinventing the wheel. but since you like to lean on 'wheel' analogies so much,
you do realize that all wheels are not created equal? not only has the wheel been enhanced again and again over the course of it's history but it's also been adapted into several different versions that excel in certain terrains and conditions.


lucky13 wrote:
"Haiku won't expand much further than the hobbyists who are already enthralled with its "promise" right now unless it can exceed -- not merely match, but beat the bleeping socks off -- application offering (qualitatively and quantitatively) of other OSes. No killer app, no future."

no future as in what context? again you make it as if Haiku must 'turn a profit' or else fail somewhere along the line. it doesn't have to pick up the fight with the likes of Windows, OSX or Linux in order to 'excuse it's existence'. it's a volunteer project that is free for anyone to use.

btw, what is the Linux killer app, since it does have a future it must have one, right?

I can't help but wonder why you spend so much time in Haiku oriented topics. you state that Haiku is irrelevant and yet commenting on it seems extremely relevant to you. personally, if I find something irrelevant I simply move on.

finally, there will always be those who sit on their arse and and preach about what can and can't be done. these are the people who will never achieve anything. then we have those who challenges these naysayers and often ends up redefining exactly what is and isn't possible.

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RE[9]: Why not
by lucky13 on Fri 20th Apr 2007 08:26 in reply to "RE[8]: Why not"
lucky13 Member since:
2007-04-01

Valhalla:
no, it's not reinventing the wheel.

Yes, it is. From the Haiku "about" page:
Why Haiku?

As a tool, software is a means to an end, and not an end in itself. The Be Operating System introduced progressive concepts and technologies that we believe represent the ideal means to the end of desktop computing. Haiku will be the realization of those concepts and technologies in the form of an operating system that is open source and free.

http://haiku-os.org/about

Valhalla:
no future as in what context?

As in being relevant enough that it will ever "catch on" directly by attracting users of other OSes OR indirectly in offering a technology that can be used widely in other environments. The former is unlikely because most people generally won't adopt another OS for the sake of novelty -- and at this point, that's the only reason they would switch. People will switch if they feel a pressing need to: for security reasons (such as fatigue of dealing with malware), for performance reasons, for productivity reasons (ease of use, killer app), etc.

The latter is very unlikely for two reasons. First, whatever was worth imitating or emulating from BeOS has already been done (if anything, the reverse is far more likely now: Haiku has already benefited or will benefit more from other projects than it will inspire other projects). Second, there hasn't exactly been a rush of brainpower -- quantity or quality -- to Haiku development like there was when Linus posted his announcement.

Valhalla:
you make it as if Haiku must 'turn a profit'

Strawman. I never said anything about "profit," all my comments about Haiku have been targeted at the following benchmarks:
- user adoption
- application availability
- technological relevance

Valhalla:
personally, if I find something irrelevant I simply move on.

In that case, thanks for replying. :-)

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