Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Apr 2007 18:59 UTC, submitted by danwarne
Windows Lots of Windows-related news today. Firstly, responding to customer demand, Dell has restarted selling new PCs with Windows XP installed on them. Secondly, Microsoft software will sell for just USD 3 in some parts of the world in an attempt to double the number of global PC users (probably not at all unrelated to this interesting figure). Lastly, Vista may only be three months old in the retail marketplace, but Microsoft is already seeking participants in the beta testing program for the next version of Windows Media Center, codenamed Fiji. Update: Microsoft denied the sales figures in China to News.com.
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RE: Clear sign
by tomcat on Fri 20th Apr 2007 21:42 UTC in reply to "Clear sign"
tomcat
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2006-01-06

...of how far away the "Wow!" campaign is from the real perception of the OS.

Did you bother to read the article? Dell is still selling Vista by default and says that demand for Vista dwarfs that of XP.

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RE[2]: Clear sign
by Ford Prefect on Fri 20th Apr 2007 22:10 in reply to "RE: Clear sign"
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2006-01-16

Do you bother to use your brain?

I never said XP outsells Vista or all people don't want Vista.

It's just most - but not even nearly all - of them don't want to buy a dated version and therefore go with Vista. No one really gets stunned by it like in MS's campaign.

Edited 2007-04-20 22:12

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RE[3]: Clear sign
by tomcat on Fri 20th Apr 2007 22:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Clear sign"
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2006-01-06

Do you bother to use your brain?

All the time.

It's just most - but not even nearly all - of them don't want to buy a dated version and therefore go with Vista.

Funny. How do you presume to speak for most?

No one really gets stunned by it like in MS's campaign.

And how did you manage the leap of logic that "no one" really gets stunned? You're quite the projectionist.

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RE[3]: Clear sign
by tomcat on Sat 21st Apr 2007 18:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Clear sign"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

why was this modded down?

Do you bother to use your brain?

All the time.

It's just most - but not even nearly all - of them don't want to buy a dated version and therefore go with Vista.

Funny. How do you presume to speak for most?

No one really gets stunned by it like in MS's campaign.

And how did you manage the leap of logic that "no one" really gets stunned? You're quite the projectionist.

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RE[2]: Clear sign
by kaiwai on Sat 21st Apr 2007 04:06 in reply to "RE: Clear sign"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Did you bother to read the article? Dell is still selling Vista by default and says that demand for Vista dwarfs that of XP.


Its also funny that the poster whom you replied to completely ignored the fact that Dell's marketshare has been dropping whilst the likes of HP and Acer have been poching customers off them.

As far as I see, looking at HP's latest financials, everything is looking rosey; HP have a good PC/Laptop stratergy going (making the PC personal again - as corny as it may sound) and offering good discounts on their products. Acer is gaining in the asian markets as well as in America where they're starting to make a presence.

For me, it seems that Dell reminds me of Sun Microsystems 4 years go; lashing around trying to grab a hold of something to bring them into growth. No real stratergy for short or long term profitability. Unlike Dell, Sun refocused on what made them unique, what issues that customers were facing which switched them off Sun offers, and addressed them - now they're growing again.

We've seen it already - offer Linux on the desktop? that was tried before, and it failed, just like the Itanium workstations failed, but hey, second times a charm? Listening to the whining chorus of end users about Windows Vista - yeap, listening more like the squeaky wheel rather than the real problems that plague Dell and what is causing the real issues behind the marketshare decline.

When you have the competitors rocking along, maybe the issue isn't Windows but the company itself. When I ring up, I get someone who knows no English. Secondly, I want to go into a store where by I can compare the offerings, and if something goes wrong, I can take it back to the store rather than having to deal with sending it back to some place in the middle of no where.

Fix your sales model, fix your service quality, fix your product quality, and spend a *little* time on actually making your machine a unique Dell experience rather than just pumping off clones - make the out of box experience with the bundled software, a pleasent experience rather than a torturous journey to hell and back.

I'm sitting here with a HP dv6209TX, and its great; its actually a pleasent experience using Windows Vista, everything works as it should, all the hardware works as it should; the software works as it should. It stable, reliable and no problems - why can't Dell achieve the same thing?

Edited 2007-04-21 04:11

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RE[3]: Clear sign
by Moochman on Sat 21st Apr 2007 09:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Clear sign"
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2005-07-06

Dell can and does achieve the same thing. In my experiences with both numerous HP machines and Dell machines, quality and reliability has been about the same, with a gradual increase in both areas in the past few years, particularly in terms of the quality of Dell's laptop offerings. How can you FUD about Dell and their service if you don't even own one? And btw, have you called HP's service yet? They have foreigners too, whoop-de-doo.

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