Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 07:38 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) arrived just a few days ago with promises of better hardware compatibility, included proprietary software and drivers, and more user friendliness. Was it wort the wait? And more importantly - Is it finally time to "Make the Switch"?" Read the review here. Elsewhere, "First thoughts on Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn" was published at ZDNet. Update: A reply article to the two linked above.
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Windows is easy as pie?
by reldruh on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 07:59 UTC
reldruh
Member since:
2007-02-05

I think one of the big problems when asking if linux is ready is that we harp on every flaw, no matter how small (duplicate menu icons? Come on). Yes, there are problems. Nobody can deny that. But is it better than the alternatives? Is it easier than Windows? In many areas, yes. In some show-stopping areas (hardware support), no. I think that if people take the time to buy fully supported hardware the amount of problems is pretty small. It's not going to be perfect, there will be a learning curve but it's at the point where people can use it. I just installed in on a friends laptop and she recognizes the fact that she has fewer problems with Ubuntu than she does with Windows (not insignificantly, I recognize the fact that I get fewer tech support calls).

RE: Windows is easy as pie?
by Polari on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 08:08 in reply to "Windows is easy as pie?"
Polari Member since:
2006-02-24

Duplicate icons was just an example. It's a general lack of attention to detail which is the problem. Ubuntu doesn't even have an artwork team. If you're looking to get the world to use your operating system, you should at least find room in the budget to hire a designer who knows what they're doing, rather than relying on community contributions.

Don't ask if it's on par with Windows, ask if it's on par with OS X. Ubuntu doesn't need to be as good as Windows, it needs to be better.

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RE[2]: Windows is easy as pie?
by theine on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 11:41 in reply to "RE: Windows is easy as pie?"
theine Member since:
2005-09-29

Ubuntu doesn't even have an artwork team.

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art

But by all means, do continue bitching.

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RE[3]: Windows is easy as pie?
by MacTO on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 14:20 in reply to "RE: Windows is easy as pie?"
MacTO Member since:
2006-09-21

> Don't ask if it's on par with Windows, ask if it's on par with OS X.

I have been inside the Mac and Linux bubble for years, and yes these operating systems excel in their own tiny domains. But seriously, you are limiting your options if you are measuring an OS against OS X. What about things like application support? What about things like hardware support? What about considering usability issues that Apple chose to ignore or reject?

There is more to the world than Mac OS X.

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RE[4]: Windows is easy as pie?
by TusharG on Mon 23rd Apr 2007 10:35 in reply to "RE: Windows is easy as pie?"
TusharG Member since:
2005-07-06

[you should at least find room in the budget to hire a designer who knows what they're doing]

Ohh so you purchased the Ubuntu and you are not getting world class product? STRANGE!!!

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RE: Windows is easy as pie?
by flanque on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 08:28 in reply to "Windows is easy as pie?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

But is it better than the alternatives? Is it easier than Windows? In many areas, yes. In some show-stopping areas (hardware support), no. I think that if people take the time to buy fully supported hardware the amount of problems is pretty small.


In some areas yep, I totally agree. In others, we'd clash. On the hardware however, I think people still want the ability to build a system based on the components they want rather than a subset. I think setting hardware requirements for infrastructure (i.e. servers, etc) is in fact needed. It affords you at a greater level of confidence on stability. On the desktop, I would agree with you that it could be a show stopper.

Edited 2007-04-22 08:31

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v RE: Windows is easy as pie?
by happycamper on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 09:41 in reply to "Windows is easy as pie?"
RE[2]: Windows is easy as pie?
by flanque on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 10:40 in reply to "RE: Windows is easy as pie?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

That's a little silly don't you think? The context of his comments suggests to me he's an advocate of Linux, perhaps even a solid user. Why would he want to trick someone, a friend no less, only to take a Windows based application off her?

It doesn't add up.

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