Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 07:38 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) arrived just a few days ago with promises of better hardware compatibility, included proprietary software and drivers, and more user friendliness. Was it wort the wait? And more importantly - Is it finally time to "Make the Switch"?" Read the review here. Elsewhere, "First thoughts on Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn" was published at ZDNet. Update: A reply article to the two linked above.
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That darn "sudo"
by penguin7009 on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 21:43 UTC
penguin7009
Member since:
2005-07-10

I just tried Kubuntu7.04. It is really a slick distro with lots to recommend it. The really big thing that drives me crazy is the crippled root account and the changes made in the normal names and designation of the file systems.

For instance, Parallels will install but the changes made to the filesystem makes it nearly impossible to compile the drivers. On the Parallels site are new scripts to install in various files, however, one has to be in the root/file manager to replace them, but there is no root account.

I just can't see learning to use a crippled distro!

Maddening!

penguin7009

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v RE: That darn "sudo"
by Southern.Pride on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 22:26 in reply to "That darn "sudo""
RE[2]: That darn "sudo"
by stestagg on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 22:38 in reply to "RE: That darn "sudo""
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

You do realise that to install Windows in a non-US locale requires you to tell the Windows installer 4-5 times that you are not in the US.
And as for Africa being at the top of the list, it does have the advantage of having a name that begins with A. What right does the USA have to always be at the top of any list?

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RE[2]: That darn "sudo"
by islander on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 23:14 in reply to "RE: That darn "sudo""
islander Member since:
2007-04-11

Does it really make a difference who heads the list first?

Suppose Antarctica was to head the list would you feel the same way ? They have researchers over there with computers don't they ? However small and insignificant that might be.

The guy who heads Ubuntu is South African.Basic logic would dictate to me that he would want to input a feel of something he was familiar with.

Whats more , Linux touts on customize-ability.Don't like the drums? Change it.

Edited 2007-04-22 23:24

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RE: That darn "sudo"
by Kokopelli on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 22:26 in reply to "That darn "sudo""
Kokopelli Member since:
2005-07-06

On the Parallels site are new scripts to install in various files, however, one has to be in the root/file manager to replace them, but there is no root account


sudo su -

You might try searching or reading man pages. Many advocate leaving root disabled but if you are not caapable of living without root there is a somewhat involved procedure to get it working:

sudo passwd root

as far as "changes made in normal names and designation of file systems" I assume you mean the change in fstab to use UUID rather than device name? You are aware this is not a Ubuntu specific thing right? Pretty much any distro that uses kernel 2.6.20 or above will be using UUID (or worked around the change using udev).

It is indeed maddening when people whinge without actually seeing what could be done or why things have changed.

Edited 2007-04-22 22:29

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RE[2]: That darn "sudo"
by pkarlos_76 on Mon 23rd Apr 2007 13:01 in reply to "RE: That darn "sudo""
pkarlos_76 Member since:
2007-04-23

Need I say "apt-get install sux" for all your root needs!! ;)

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RE: That darn "sudo"
by stestagg on Sun 22nd Apr 2007 22:36 in reply to "That darn "sudo""
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Yeah it bugs the hell out of me too, but just do this in the console:

sudo passwd root

then set the root password to whatever you want.

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RE[2]: That darn "sudo"
by siimo on Mon 23rd Apr 2007 02:04 in reply to "RE: That darn "sudo""
siimo Member since:
2006-06-22

or if you are just interested in a root shell for the current session then run:

sudo -s

and you will be given a root shell to work with =)

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