Linked by Neeraj Singh on Mon 23rd Apr 2007 19:02 UTC
Windows If you shout something loud enough and many people are saying it, does it become true? Some groups of people (include tech journalists and Linux advocates, such as Steven J. Vaughn-Nichols) have a psychological need to find Vista lacking. Mr. V-N has predicted that Vista will have all manner of problems, so his clear interest is to point out everything that is wrong with the OS. Who cares if he has to even make some stuff up?
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PlatformAgnostic
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2006-01-02

512 MB is too little RAM for Vista. Maybe if you turn Aero off, it might be okay, but I don't think anyone (besides Microsoft) will tell you that 512 is enough. I'm not going to defend the indefensible.

I also don't think the language situation is perfect. But if you needed the OS in French, why was it in English in the first place? This doesn't help you, but enterprises can get multilingual packs that can be installed on a per-user basis... you also get these if you buy Ultimate edition. If not, I guess you're consigned to reinstalling the OS.

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archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

512 MB is too little RAM for Vista. Maybe if you turn Aero off, it might be okay, but I don't think anyone (besides Microsoft) will tell you that 512 is enough. I'm not going to defend the indefensible.


Well, obviously HP and Future Shop believe that 512MB is enough, since they sell the systems. As I said, FS no longer sold any systems with XP (none from other OEMs either). How is the average consumer supposed to know that the *new* PC he's buying is not powerful enough to adequately run the OS it's shipped with?

The bigger point, of courses, is that Vista *should* be able to run on 512 MB. 512MB, while not that much, is still quite a lot of memory. XP runs very well on such a system - I find it mind-boggling that MS, with all its talented engineer, wasn't able to produce an advanced OS that could run with that amount of memory.

I was almost tempted to leave the Kubuntu LiveCD in the CD-ROM tray and not tell my ex's parents...

I also don't think the language situation is perfect. But if you needed the OS in French, why was it in English in the first place?


Um, because that's what they were selling at the store? Hey, I know some of this criticism is not MS's responsibility, it's the OEM's and the store's, but what is the average consumer going to think? He's going to be staring at his computer screen for two and a half hours, wondering why it takes so long (why *does* it take so long, incidentally? It takes less than 20 minutes to install the whole Kubuntu OS...). Oh, and after these two and a half hours, it's another forty-five minutes of updates before you have a completely ready system...great!

There's no real engineering reason to require a reinstall if you want a different language...it's a business reason, and these are what plague Windows the most, in my view. It'd be a great OS if it was open-sourced, and didn't have to serve to maintain MS's revenue stream. I won't even mention the times when you need more than one language on the same computer...

This doesn't help you, but enterprises can get multilingual packs that can be installed on a per-user basis... you also get these if you buy Ultimate edition. If not, I guess you're consigned to reinstalling the OS.


Yes, and the Ultimate version was worth as much as the PC I was buying. This was not an option for the future owner.

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ThawkTH Member since:
2005-07-06

I bought a brand new Acer two weeks ago that came with Vista Home Basic.

It's an Athlon XP X2 4000+. Decent system all around, came with 512mb of RAM.

Vista took over two minutes to boot (and no, this was not "First boot"). The first bootup was a two hour ordeal (mostly due to crapware)...

When I finally cleared all the junk off, it still took almost two minutes to boot up to a usable desktop (meaning the hd wasn't grinding like it was about to explode anymore).

After trying out IE7 (I was going straight to d/l Firefox), while simultaneously trying to browse the control panel to get a feel for it, and my computer practically locking up trying to do both, I realized enough was enough.

Vista wasn't much prettier (after all, I guess my brand new computer just isn't powerful enough to render the awesomeness that is VISTA)

After fighting with it for a few hours, I tossed my Feisty RC install cd in. It installed in about 20 minutes. Updated in another 20 or so. And I was able to install codecs, Nvidia drivers, etc in another 20 or so.

In that hour I had everything working perfectly, quickly, and smoothly. My computer actually feels like MINE...Like I am in control. That's how it should be. How it was in win95 on my compaq 2200 with 16mb of RAM and 1.8gb hd! Wow that takes me back.

Point is, Linux is not perfect. But what Microsoft has done is release a product that is even farther from perfect. A product that many of us are learning to despise.

Largest OS maker in the world, with a monopoly that is consistently abuses, with tons of what are supposed to be the best and brightest...And they churn THIS out?

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