Linked by diegocg on Sat 28th Apr 2007 23:15 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Gran Paradiso Alpha 4 is now available for testing. New features in this development milestone of Mozilla Firefox 3 include the FUEL JavaScript library for extension developers, a redesigned Page Info window, improvements to offline application support and Gecko 1.9 bug fixes. Several Mac OS X additions have also been made, including support for Growl notifications, improvements to the Cocoa user interface and an initial version of the Breakpad crash reporting tool."
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Excuse me...
by hhcv on Sun 29th Apr 2007 00:13 UTC
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I thought the browser wars were over?

I love the current FF and what the Mozilla team envision for it, but, aren't they being celebrated for something Microsoft is quite often criticized for?

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RE: Excuse me...
by chrono13 on Sun 29th Apr 2007 00:54 in reply to "Excuse me..."
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"I thought the browser wars were over?"

According to Microsoft they are. The fact remains that the users choice for any default application will always result in competing applications. A war the first time around, sure, but now it is more about choice and standards. So while I wouldn't call it a war, you can bet that Microsoft will do whatever it takes to win.

"I love the current FF and what the Mozilla team envision for it"

Eh, while FF is my favorite browser and current choice, the fact that they have chosen to use their great plugin system for some of the expanded features, while forcefully bundling others makes me question where it is going. The phishing filter I had to disable and delete the sql list because it is too big to quickly sync to USB and back. Further, projects like Damn Small Linux and other low-resource projects will likely not be upgrading to newer Firefox's because of the force-bundle. I think they should extension everything that is not explicitly core-browser. Including the awesome spell checking feature which I do enjoy.
Perhaps someone can fork the Firefox Suite and make a fast and feature lite browser that can be expanded by plugins? One can hope.

"but, aren't they being celebrated for something Microsoft is quite often criticized for?"

They are leveraging their superior market in a given area to discourage choice and innovation in another? They are creating new communication systems that are non-standard that encourages development for only their software? They are breaking laws in several countries and simply buying their way out?

Besides being successful, where are they like Microsoft? And even in that regard, Mozilla's success is by user choice, a far cry from Microsoft's reasons for success.

I'm hoping you have an interesting point to discuss that I missed, but you didn't explain what you meant in your post, so I'm guessing I'm not the only one curious as to what you meant.

Edited 2007-04-29 00:55

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RE: Excuse me...
by Luminair on Sun 29th Apr 2007 01:24 in reply to "Excuse me..."
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The browser war ended when Microsoft included IE in their operating systems. Just like the IM war ended when they included MSN in their operating systems.

Life goes on and software continues to be developed.

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RE[2]: Excuse me...
by flanque on Sun 29th Apr 2007 05:53 in reply to "RE: Excuse me..."
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I thought the browser wars finished a week or two ago?

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