Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 29th Apr 2007 10:50 UTC, submitted by danwarne
Windows "At APC we've been running the Beta 2 edition of Windows Home Server for the past two months and it's acquitted itself surprisingly well - no doubt a reflection on the time this 'server for the rest of us' spent in the Redmond skunkworks. There's still some 'fit and finish' to appear before it hits the Release Candidate milestone around Q3, prior to the platform's debut towards the end of this year - but from what we've seen so far, we'd rate Windows Home Server as one of Microsoft's most polished and most impressive 1.0 releases to date. Here's a walkthrough gallery of screenshots from the Beta 2 build of Windows Home Server." There's also a screenshot gallery for Longhorn Server Beta 3.
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RE[3]: Very Impressive...
by dylansmrjones on Sun 29th Apr 2007 14:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Very Impressive..."
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

No it isn't.


Yes it is. Take a look at any Gnome Desktop ;)

Where did you pick this up from, and do you really believe this actually gets a web server up and running?


Hmm... When I go to the System menu in Gnome and chooses the Administration submenu I can see a menu item called "Services" ("Tjenester" in Danish). Click on the menu item, enter root password (may vary depending on configuration of distribution) and up comes a window with a number of services and "Webserver (Apache2)" (or whatever webserver you have installed as a service) will show up. Click in the checkbox at the side of "Webserver" and it will be started. Proof: Start firefox and enter "localhost".

That's where I picked it up.

And yes, it does get a webserver up and running. Does it get a lot of other things up and running? Nope. Just the webserver. Is it particularly useful? Naah, but neither is the IIS in itself. It takes a lot more but we were only discussing the webserver. Not a webservice based on MySQL/PostgreSQL, PHP, Apache, Java etc. You'll have to write that code yourself - or at least installing it before it can be used.

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RE[4]: Very Impressive...
by segedunum on Sun 29th Apr 2007 15:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Very Impressive..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes it is. Take a look at any Gnome Desktop ;)

Gnome is not a server or an operating system, and I do not see an Apache administration console anywhere.

Hmm... When I go to the System menu in Gnome and chooses the Administration submenu I can see a menu item called "Services" ("Tjenester" in Danish).

Depends on the distribution you're using, and starting the service does not imply getting it up and running and configured and does not imply point and click tools for doing so.

Click on the menu item, enter root password (may vary depending on configuration of distribution) and up comes a window with a number of services and "Webserver (Apache2)" (or whatever webserver you have installed as a service) will show up.

If your web server isn't installed, will it automatically prompt you to install it like Windows will?

And yes, it does get a webserver up and running. Does it get a lot of other things up and running? Nope. Just the webserver. Is it particularly useful? Naah, but neither is the IIS in itself.

Take a look at IIS' management console, and then take a look at what you think are point and click administration tools on whatever it is you think you are using. It's such a poor comparison it isn't even funny.

It takes a lot more but we were only discussing the webserver.

No. Your specific comment was:

You haven't used Linux for this I take it? Setting up a webserver in Linux is a click'n'point operation and has been so for years.

To set up a web server into something someone can use, and put content on, is a lot more than having some extremely basic graphical way of starting Apache.

Let's come to a right understanding. Apart from YaST in Suse, and possibly Mandrake, (and they're not all that great) the state of graphical administration tools in Linux systems is woeful. Simply woeful.

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RE[4]: Very Impressive...
by yak8998 on Mon 30th Apr 2007 07:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Very Impressive..."
yak8998 Member since:
2006-07-28

how did you get voted up to 4 for that?
And you've obviously never used IIS...

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RE[5]: Very Impressive...
by dylansmrjones on Mon 30th Apr 2007 10:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Very Impressive..."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Actually I have used IIS. And I still do when running projects on my PC at College. A bare Apache installation is not particularly useful - the same goes for any webserver. Now run a web application on top of it and the webserver becomes really useful. That includes IIS.

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