Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd May 2007 19:19 UTC, submitted by DevL
Apple Steve Jobs writes about Apple's efforts to become a more enironmental friendly company. "Apple has been criticized by some environmental organizations for not being a leader in removing toxic chemicals from its new products, and for not aggressively or properly recycling its old products. Upon investigating Apple's current practices and progress towards these goals, I was surprised to learn that in many cases Apple is ahead of, or will soon be ahead of, most of its competitors in these areas. Whatever other improvements we need to make, it is certainly clear that we have failed to communicate the things that we are doing well." Among other things, Apple will introduce LEDs in displays to Macs this year.
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by Kroc on Wed 2nd May 2007 20:22 UTC in reply to "RE"
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A little improvement is good, but dellusional belief of buying something, anything, because it's "greener" is fundamentally backwards.

I have seen adverts from the main gas and electric supplier in England, saying that they have the lowest CO2 emmissions out of their competitiors. That is meaningless diatribe, because as a gas and electric supplier, they burn hundreds of tonnes of fosil fuels everyday, they supply electricity to millions of homes powering TVs on standby. They may emmit less CO2, but that's still relative to the incredible amount they pump out. It's entirely misleading information, false advertising at best, and doesn't tackle the actual problem of the energy we are burning having TVs on standby with legislation to use 0-draw stand-by modes still years away.

Madness, utter madness. We're screwed. The human race is doomed by mankind's fantastic ability to delude itself. Yesterday I heard a fact that by the age of 2, we (in the UK) will have been responsible for more carbon emissions than an asian in their whole lifetime.

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by Luminair on Wed 2nd May 2007 21:17 in reply to "RE"
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You're on crazy pills. You're saying the human race is doomed because people are doing something good instead of nothing good. Crazy pills.

Any progress is good progress. That's the long and short of it.

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by stew on Wed 2nd May 2007 21:22 in reply to "RE"
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Any progress is good progress.

What is your criteria for measuring? How do you tell what's good? A higher GDP? Happier people? Healthier people?

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by jrlah on Thu 3rd May 2007 05:48 in reply to "RE"
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Yesterday I heard a fact that by the age of 2, we (in the UK) will have been responsible for more carbon emissions than an asian in their whole lifetime.

Yep. And most of those Asians would gladly give away the pride of their small environmental footprint in exchange for the living standard of an Englishman.

Please stop your luddite ranting. You are also probably the kind of person who will blame the West for the poverty of those Asians and expect the West to make that poverty go away. The poverty that is the main cause of their small environmental footprint. Which is it??? Seems that you would like developed countries to NOT eat their cake AND NOT have it, either.

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by Mordakk on Thu 3rd May 2007 14:31 in reply to "RE"
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Start acting like you really believe what you are saying. Live off the grid.

No not just off the grid, you need to live without consuming any manufactured goods or argricultural products harvested with manufactured goods such as threshing machines, tractors or even a simple blade. Seriously how much pollution goes into the production of every day gardening tools used by the so-called organic farmers?

You need to raise all your own food and make all your own tools out of wood and stone. Arg! Wait if you did that you would have to pull vegetation out of some small plot of land and plant your own vegetation and that would disrupt the natural order of that plot of land. So instead you can only gather wild berries and nuts and maybe the occasional fruit from a tree. But don't deprive any other animals or insects from those things because that would also have an unnatural and negative impact on the environment.

Well ... good luck

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by ma_d on Thu 3rd May 2007 16:38 in reply to "RE"
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How is your gas and electric company going to keep tv's from having intensive stand by modes...

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