Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th May 2007 15:45 UTC
Window Managers E16 version 0.16.8.7 and epplets version 0.10 are now available for download. "Add option to show windows on all desks in focus list. The CM now renders to the composite overlay window. Fix various updates when external background changes." Many more fixes are in the changelog.
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Obligatory question
by diegocg on Fri 4th May 2007 16:10 UTC
diegocg
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2005-07-08

Are there news about E17? It's sad that it has had some of the pieces that Vista and OS X have got later than E17; still there's no E17 but there's Vista. And then, there's compiz, which has brought to the linux desktop more eyecandy than Enlightenment window managers. People is just getting bored of waiting to E17.

RE: Obligatory question
by butters on Fri 4th May 2007 20:08 in reply to "Obligatory question"
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2005-07-08

Agreed in fact and spirit. I think there are lessons to be learned here. Rasterman's technical skills and insights are nearly beyond reproach, but his leadership skills and understanding of the community have doomed his best efforts to push the envelope for X11 desktops. Nothing about E is boring, but everything about it is niche, and nothing about it translates into mainstream progress.

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RE: Obligatory question
by HiThere on Fri 4th May 2007 20:15 in reply to "Obligatory question"
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2006-05-13

> still there's no E17 but there's Vista.

E17 svn is pretty stable. Some even claim it to be more stable then e16 itself. E17 vs Vista, that is comparing apples with oranges. They have complete different goals. I do not think that E17 is ever ment to be in the desktop race. Even though it could have.

> And then, there's compiz, which has brought to the linux desktop more eyecandy than Enlightenment window managers.

There is no reason why E17 could not do that as well. Watch Rasters au linux conf video, he explains it all in detail why they do not do that, if you really care.

There has been a (experimental) module around though, that allows you exactly that kind of stuff. It actually worked pretty well for me. (aka bling module)

Yes compiz is nice, but show me 1 peace of software that does the same as E17 with the same resources or less and runs on the same amount of different systems.

Please have a better look at why projects are there.
They write it because they want it and enjoy it. Not to provide other people with what they consider "the best desktop".

Sorry if i sound a bit harsh, i just get a bit fed up about people who consider all software to be competition. In a way that is true, but there are also people who simply like to write the software _they_ want.

Edited 2007-05-04 20:20

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RE[2]: Obligatory question
by zetsurin on Sat 5th May 2007 20:54 in reply to "RE: Obligatory question"
zetsurin Member since:
2006-06-13

Do you have a link of this video of Rasterman's linux au discussion?

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