Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 6th May 2007 18:02 UTC
Multimedia, AV Everytime we feature a multimedia device review here at OSNews the question is always the same: "...but does it support OGG?". Well, this time we do have such a device in our lab to test out for you. Geeks.com sent us in the iRiver E10, a powerful multimedia music and video player.
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RE: Drag and Drop
by Doc Pain on Sun 6th May 2007 19:42 UTC in reply to "Drag and Drop"
Doc Pain
Member since:
2006-10-08

"This sounds great, but I really dislike it when players require some sort of media manager."

I agree. Some of these media managers are ugly as sin, near zero functionality and do not run on standard OSes.

To quote from the posting "On The Benefis of Iriver and Cowon DAPs" by project_2501:

The Iriver and Cowon devices didn't do that. They appear as USB removable storage so you can use any USB compatible OS - including windows, linux, solaris and macos. There's nothing to stop you using the 30Gb and 60Gb models as portable hard disks for your images or spreadsheets. You don't need proprietary software or drivers - just drag and drop your files. In todays market, I don't understand why I should use proprietary software which imposes restrictions on me.

So it seems you can use your favourite file manager, maybe something with clickityclick, drag and drop, or the Midnight Commander or even mount + cp/rm + umount (which is great for automated synchronization). How the files stored on the device are handled by its firmware may be different, of course.

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RE[2]: Drag and Drop
by kaiwai on Sun 6th May 2007 22:26 in reply to "RE: Drag and Drop"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

So it seems you can use your favourite file manager, maybe something with clickityclick, drag and drop, or the Midnight Commander or even mount + cp/rm + umount (which is great for automated synchronization). How the files stored on the device are handled by its firmware may be different, of course.


I don't understand peoples fascination with 'usb mass storage' - there is an opensource and very stable version of mtp available - libmtp http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/
If you use iPod, then use gtkpod/libgpod.

Neither of them have given me any grief.

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RE[3]: Drag and Drop
by JrezIN on Sun 6th May 2007 22:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Drag and Drop"
JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't understand peoples fascination with 'usb mass storage' - there is an opensource and very stable version of mtp available - libmtp http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/
If you use iPod, then use gtkpod/libgpod.

Neither of them have given me any grief.


Still... you need to install something... opposed to UMS, when everything just works and you can use you player as a portable storage too. Also, it's more future-proof.

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RE[3]: Drag and Drop
by Earl Colby pottinger on Mon 7th May 2007 00:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Drag and Drop"
Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

Kaiwai:
>I don't understand peoples fascination with 'usb mass storage' - there is an opensource and very stable
>version of mtp available - libmtp http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/
>If you use iPod, then use gtkpod/libgpod.

>Neither of them have given me any grief.

Because some of us like our OSes and their file managers. BeOS and Open_Tracker in my case, and the programs 'libmtp' & 'gtkpod/libgpod' don't work at present with BeOS/Haiku.

But the most important reason is portability, my present HP camera supports access to the pictures as an USB Drive and that not only I can use it on my BeOS machines without extra software, I can plug it into just about anybody's machine *WITHOUT* installing drivers and still transfer the needed files.

I have used my ex-girlfriend's computer only once in the last two years to transfer pictures to her that she wanted. I have transfered pictures twice in the last year to my brother's computer and the same for my girlfriend.

None of them have HP cameras like me, are you suggesting that it makes sense for me to install HP's CD of software for such little use? Any software? When I can just plug in and use the device as a disk drive?

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