Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th May 2007 15:36 UTC, submitted by butters
On the heels of announcing their plan to offer Ubuntu Linux pre-installed on selected consumer desktops and laptops, Dell will disclose today that it will team up with Novell and Microsoft to distribute Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Server software along with Microsoft's Windows Server software. As part of the deal, Dell will help Novell and Microsoft make SLES and Windows work together efficiently on Dell's computer hardware. Rick Becker, a Dell VP, says, "There's many aspects of open source that delight my customers, [but] they have concerns about software licensing. Those concerns go away when they deploy Microsoft and SLES Linux."
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RE[3]: Another Company in Dire Straights
by cyclops on Tue 8th May 2007 02:15
in reply to "RE[2]: Another Company in Dire Straights"
Member since:2006-03-12
"Perhaps if you guys started learning to code yourselves instead of crowding around Groklaw bitching about what Linus and the kernel devs should do, maybe you'd be able to achieve your own objectives instead of preaching for others to do it for you.
Instead, yet again the FSF proponents perpetuate the very FUD they decry from Microsoft in order the advance the v3 agenda. Physican, heal thy self."
Instead, yet again the FSF proponents perpetuate the very FUD they decry from Microsoft in order the advance the v3 agenda. Physican, heal thy self."
Wow just wow. I'm not sure whether his post or your is more strange.
The poster has stated he wont support dell. because Dell by choosing Suse *and* in making political statements where it could have chosen to make none. Why they have done so is interesting.
But its interesting, because this choice by dell and the public statements why they have chosen their distribution leaves a bad taste.
I am not convinced for a moment that Dell is worried about Microsoft Suing them they are one of their Major customers.
Its a double win for Microsoft.
1) Its a success it supports the notion of Microsoft's patents in Linux; and reinforces Suse being the only legitimate Company for using Microsoft's IP(sic).
2) Its a failure...Vista server is better than Linux.
To be fair the whole deal gives with one hand and takes away with the other.
The reality is the Novell deal happened. Dell are making these statements. An American mistake is affecting the rest of the world.
You can't put your head in the sand and say this isn't happening. The FSF v3 agenda(sic) is going to do very well out of this...and rightly so, v2 was written many years before these problems exist.
Personally the world that we live in demands action; Whether v3 is a real solution to all the problems with v2 including the patent problem(sic), I very much doubt . I imagine v3 will not have the same mileage as that of v2, already its showing signs of being dated.
Edited 2007-05-08 02:32
RE[4]: Another Company in Dire Straights
by IanSVT on Tue 8th May 2007 03:31
in reply to "RE[3]: Another Company in Dire Straights"
Member since:2005-07-06
1) Its a success it supports the notion of Microsoft's patents in Linux; and reinforces Suse being the only legitimate Company for using Microsoft's IP(sic).
Only if you buy into what Microsoft is shoveling. Some of us don't find what Microsoft says to be law. Treating what they say as law, is buying right into what they're saying. I think that's part of what elsewhere is getting at, and something I agree with 100%. A certain segment of the OSS/Linux community is doing plenty of FUDing against OSS/Linux all by themselves.
2) Its a failure...Vista server is better than Linux.
While I'm giving IT directors as a whole more credit than some deserve, they don't purchase or recommend to purchase products based on them being "better". Let's be real here, it's the services, not the OS. Exchange and Active Directory are what draw customers, not the Windows Server OS itself.
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2005-07-13
Linux users: boycott this in droves, it's the only way to stop this Microsoft/Novell IP FUD.
Linus (and others): get over your self opinions and egos, change the Linux kernel pronto to GPL v3 (when it's released) and stop this sort of shit from happening. It's damaging to the Linux community, and to the term open source.
When FUD is involved, there's no honesty. The sooner Dell and Novell go bust, the better. Good riddance.
Dave
*heavy sigh*
Perhaps if you guys started learning to code yourselves instead of crowding around Groklaw bitching about what Linus and the kernel devs should do, maybe you'd be able to achieve your own objectives instead of preaching for others to do it for you.
Instead, yet again the FSF proponents perpetuate the very FUD they decry from Microsoft in order the advance the v3 agenda. Physican, heal thy self.