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You know for a fact.....
by budword on Wed 9th May 2007 02:13 UTC
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that Dell is going to sell a crippled cheap piece of crap, especially if they are going to target this linux box at the budget market. They sold my ex's Mom a WinXP box with 128MB of ram. You read that right. It was slower than my old pentium 100 Win95 box with 32MB of ram. But hey, it was a 2ghz pentium 4, that at the time cost just under $1000. Dell crippled that machine by being too cheap to include enough ram to make it usable. Dell should be embarrassed. They will do the same thing to Ubuntu, giving new users a very poor first impression of Linux in general. I wish they would just leave well enough alone. This will not go over well, no matter what happens, Linux will come out of this looking poor. First, most people are just going to pay the extra $40 that the windows machine will cost, and install Linux themselves, so sales will be low, if any, and Linux will end up looking bad. Then any machines they do manage to sell will be crippled pieces of ****. Which users not adept enough to install Linux themselves will blame the problems on Linux instead of the crippled computer Dell sold them. Can you imagine a Linux box that comes with a load of crapware installed ? A Linux version of the new "AOL" on your LINUX desktop, yay.... This will not end well. The only place this makes sense is for corporate users who are looking for a supported desktop distro. Funny part is, I don't think any corporate user making those decisions will be stupid enough to 'CHOOSE' Dell support on purpose. Well, maybe they will, at that.. Linus took a hit the day Dell tried to help.

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RE: You know for a fact.....
by Noremacam on Wed 9th May 2007 02:39 in reply to "You know for a fact....."
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I highly doubt Dell is going to put crapware on a linux machine; they'd be spitting on the very people they're trying to appeal to; the linux community. Not to mention, adding linux to the desktop is only a small part of a shakeup that Dell is doing to get more exposure. Crapware on the linux desktop would do far more to damage Dell than not selling a linux desktop at all.

Dell may have sold some crappy hardware, but after working in pc repair, I find a surprisingly large amount of people trust them; and if the dollar is right they do sell a decent computer.

I think Dell putting linux on pc's is great. I learned how to use windows long before I learned how to install it/configure it. Why can't linux be the same way? I think it's great that people might have a chance to get working with it first, before learning the technicalities of just installing and configuring it. Getting new people to try it could be so much less painless if configured by the manufacturer to work without blemish with predetermined hardware. Being able to learn how to work around a Linux environment without having to spend hours/days configuring the box to be usable will make exposure to the OS more permeable.

If Dell markets it right, it could be nothing but success for everyone. With the state that Dell is in, something tells me they want to get that right.

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RE: You know for a fact.....
by Soulbender on Wed 9th May 2007 04:19 in reply to "You know for a fact....."
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Really? It's a fact? Care to present any real evidence? Other than ranting, that is.

"They sold my ex's Mom a WinXP box with 128MB of ram."

I don't think they actually forced her to buy it and I dont think Dell even does retail sales themselves. So blame the store who sold it to her or her for buying it without knowing what to buy.

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RE: You know for a fact.....
by Johann Chua on Wed 9th May 2007 05:47 in reply to "You know for a fact....."
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Acer's entry-level laptop that I bought last month had Linpus Linux pre-installed. Came with a measly 512MB of DDR2 RAM. Oh, wait, that's actually pretty good for a low-cost computer.

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RE: You know for a fact.....
by snozzberry on Wed 9th May 2007 21:05 in reply to "You know for a fact....."
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You forgot to mention they ran over your dog and knocked over your lemonade stand.

You don't mention when your ex's mom bought the computer and that makes a difference. Pre-SP1, 128Mb RAM was sufficient to run XP if you weren't a gamer or a graphics/multimedia professional. If she balked at the price while ordering the computer, it's likely that they cut down her memory to make it affordable.

Dell won't be embarrassed, unless they start shipping boxes with the optical/HD drives that have been so problematic for the 2.6.20 kernel in Feisty 7.04. Dell will take a page from Apple and see to it the hardware and OS are synchronized, because their ass will be grass otherwise. It's a no-brainer.

Dell makes low-end crap computers. They also make well-built higher-end desktop/laptop/server systems. The people who bitch the loudest about Dell boxes are invariably the ones who lowballed their purchase.

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