Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2007 10:08 UTC, submitted by Ford Prefect
Java Sun Microsystems has announced the release of an open-source version of its Java Development Kit for Java Platform Standard Edition. Sun has contributed the software to the OpenJDK Community as free software under the GNU GPLv2. Sun also announced that OpenJDK-based implementations can use the JCK (Java SE 6 Technical Compatibility Kit) to establish compatibility with the Java SE 6 specification. OpenBSD has already started importing the release.
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Possible innovation
by Laurence on Wed 9th May 2007 10:48 UTC
Laurence
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2007-03-26

Maybe I'm being a tad optimistic, but hopefully this will lead to advancements in Java IDEs that will offer developers a chance to build applets in as straightforward method for non-programmers as it is to build Flash.

So maybe (hopefully) there's a good chance Java can reclaim some lost ground against Adobe and make things that much more awkward for Microsoft's Silverlight.

</optimism>

Edited 2007-05-09 10:54

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RE: Possible innovation
by Adurbe on Wed 9th May 2007 10:52 in reply to "Possible innovation"
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2005-07-06

flash gaining against adobe? you do know who now owns flash right?

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RE[2]: Possible innovation
by Laurence on Wed 9th May 2007 10:56 in reply to "RE: Possible innovation"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Sorry, it was a grammatical error (should have picked up in proof reading).
Corrected now.

Thanks
Laurence

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RE: Possible innovation
by kap1 on Wed 9th May 2007 11:03 in reply to "Possible innovation"
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2006-05-12

actually in the eweek article above

"the systems company and Java giant also announced a new competitor to Adobe's Flash and Microsoft's Silverlight,"

so guess they can finally get rid of the aged applets and get something better.

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RE: Possible innovation
by sard on Wed 9th May 2007 11:44 in reply to "Possible innovation"
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2005-11-16

With Java 6 browsers still grinds to a complete halt for 10-20 seconds to load an applet (3Ghz 1G ram PC). There is precisely 0% chance of it ever competing with Flash online until a JRE is recoded from the ground up to start up instantly and install seamlessly.

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RE[2]: Possible innovation
by Savior on Wed 9th May 2007 11:55 in reply to "RE: Possible innovation"
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2006-09-02

Unfortunately, yes. When running, it is much faster than flash, but startup is still a problem. As is cleanup: the plugin remains in memory, until the browser is closed.

However, Java has WebStart since 1.4, which is much better and cleaner than applets.

Edited 2007-05-09 11:58

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RE[2]: Possible innovation
by anda_skoa on Wed 9th May 2007 14:36 in reply to "RE: Possible innovation"
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

With Java 6 browsers still grinds to a complete halt for 10-20 seconds to load an applet


Isn't this rather a problem of the plugin?

If it would start the JRE out-of-process, the browser could just reserve the necessary space on the page and keep on rendering the rest.

In fact that's how Konqueror handles Java applets.

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RE: Possible innovation
by knightrider on Wed 9th May 2007 14:35 in reply to "Possible innovation"
knightrider Member since:
2006-12-11

I certainly think it will regain some lost ground. We might even see some new innovations by bright young minds on the Linux platform as well.

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