Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2007 10:08 UTC, submitted by Ford Prefect
Java Sun Microsystems has announced the release of an open-source version of its Java Development Kit for Java Platform Standard Edition. Sun has contributed the software to the OpenJDK Community as free software under the GNU GPLv2. Sun also announced that OpenJDK-based implementations can use the JCK (Java SE 6 Technical Compatibility Kit) to establish compatibility with the Java SE 6 specification. OpenBSD has already started importing the release.
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dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

Moral: English changes, like it or not. Also, don't do the thing you're complaining about as you're complaining about it, it just shows that you're wrong to complain about it in the first place.


Could I get that again? And in slow motion this time? ;)

Anyway... there is a clear relationship between nouns and verbs so if one was truly a "language purist" one would appreciate the mechanics of languages. Driver=noun, driving=verb. The driver is driving. Did the verb stem from the noun or opposite. What was it called before it was called 'driving'? Did people object about a driver beaing used as a noun. I'm using google therefore I am googling. Seems perfectly acceptable to me. One could perhaps call a person using a seek engine for a googler? ;)

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Coxy Member since:
2006-07-01

Funny that everyone is complaining because someone said that grammar isn't being applied correctly. When it's to do with language people are quite happy to change and adapt to the situation in hand.

The rules of grammar are a standard to follow so that everyone can understand what is being said. If this was about IE and web standards you all be modding up lucke for pointing out how standards should be stuck to.

Maybe your double standards exist because you don't really care that much about the language as long as you can use it... sort of the same way not all web sites stick to web standards, because they don't always make sense.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

The rules of grammar are a standard to follow


No it's not. At least not in Denmark. I'm not aware of any democracy where there is such a standard to follow. There are guidelines to make it easier but no standards (standards are something you _have_ to follow). Most so-called language standards are not standards but merely an interpretion of how the language is being used at that time the "standard" was created.

Besides that the two situations cannot be compared.

Two persons are still speaking the same language even if they dynamically enhance the language. They will often understand each better when they do so, rather than sticking to a government body's static interpretion of the language.

However with software and hardware the situation is completely different. Even small violations of a standard can make a driver incapable of communicating with the hardware - or make it impossible for the client to communicate with the server. A slight variation in standard implementations can often result in situations akin to one speaking Old Norse (the Danish Tongue (dǫnsk tunga in Old Western Norse, dansk tunga in Old Eastern Norse, dansk tunge in modern Danish) and the other speaking Thai.

Besides that people have the option to clarify their statements if other people don't understand a word. Even if we invent new words on the spot we are still talking the same language.

A language's nature is to evolve dynamically. Creating a "standard" for a language is merely in order to be helpful and not something one _must_ follow. A standard in software is different since a small variation equals a completely different language.

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