Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 10th May 2007 01:53 UTC, submitted by editingwhiz
Red Hat Red Hat announced a new client product, Red Hat Global Desktop, at its annual Red Hat Summit tradeshow in San Diego. This move is designed, in part, to compete with Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Desktop, which has achieved success in business desktop markets, and with Ubuntu 7.04, which will soon appear on Dell PCs. Some reporting about this can also be found at the company's magazine. Update: Elsewhere, talking security with Red Hat's Mark Cox.
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Wow just WOW
by cyclops on Thu 10th May 2007 02:21 UTC
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2006-03-12

"To us, the traditional desktop metaphor is dead"

That I would love to see. and as for Desktop Linux

"simply not an option. Many of those companies that have tried to do this are not around anymore. We would have bought Corel [Corel's Linux became the foundation for Xandros Linux] five years ago if that was the paradigm our customers wanted,"

Judging how Sun is doing with bringing StarOffice back from the dead, and Ubuntu is successfully converting Web 2.0 generation over to the desktop.

I remember when people were worried that Red Hat would become a monopoly on Linux.

Whether creating a niche in the server market is the best thing, time will tell...but that space is getting awfully busy just lately, and as for the whole Dell/Novell announcement etc etc. I hope they have a strong enough team to *Make deals behind closed doors*

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RE: Wow just WOW
by Lunitik on Thu 10th May 2007 03:09 in reply to "Wow just WOW"
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2005-08-07

StarOffice isn't doing that much of relevance lately to be honest... there is a company that is working to make OpenOffice into a web app anyways, so that isn't going away.

Ubuntu just grabs everyone elses work and makes it idiot proof. They're hardly innovative, and without companies like RedHat, (look around gnome and see how much stuff RedHat holds copyrights to) Ubuntu wouldn't exist.

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RE: Wow just WOW
by kaiwai on Thu 10th May 2007 22:57 in reply to "Wow just WOW"
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2005-07-06


Whether creating a niche in the server market is the best thing, time will tell...but that space is getting awfully busy just lately, and as for the whole Dell/Novell announcement etc etc. I hope they have a strong enough team to *Make deals behind closed doors*


I think one thing that Red Hat, along with many other "Web 2.0 will destroy Microsoft!" is this; Microsoft *know* that this so-called "Web 2.0" will play a major role, but don't see it being the silver bullet that can replace heavy desktop applications - it many cases, it just just not viable.

If people here want to see the future of the desktop, its easy, look at Microsoft with its Office Server System, Windows Vista and its .NET Framework - the line between Server and Desktop is becoming more and more blurred; some things aren't strictly server or desktop.

This is what is going to really hurt the opensource world if they don't wake up and smell the changes - and want to know the sad part? Share Point and the likes are hardly innovative ideas; they're pretty much all built on the .NET Application Server.

If the opensource desktop wants to get ahead it needs to not only focus on the server, and the desktop side, but how they interact with each other; each are not an island to themselves - both rely on each other, and it is about leverage the strengths of each paradigm resulting in a favourable outcome.

With that being said, its the small things that also count, for instance, on my desktop, a audio cd didn't dismount properly after I finished ripping a cd, the net result? my ipod can't mount, nothing can mount; solution, I had to kill off hal and restart it - I can now access my ipod.

Its small inconvenient things like that which cause people to turn off alternatives - don't worry about the big things, there are no big things in the *NIX world which are holding back their adoption on the desktop, what is holding it back are large numbers of small little things; a cd not dismounting, audio not being deleted off the destination mp3 player when being deleted through a front end - Ubuntu with Rhythmbox, I delete the files off my iPod, but they still exist - all that's happened is they've been deleted off the iPod database.

I think that is what frustrates me more than anything; if there were major problems with Linux, then sure, one could accept that lots of work needs to be done - but Linux is 99.999% of the way there, its just trying to cover the last 0.001% which seems to be the hardest.

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