Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 10th May 2007 01:53 UTC, submitted by editingwhiz
Red Hat Red Hat announced a new client product, Red Hat Global Desktop, at its annual Red Hat Summit tradeshow in San Diego. This move is designed, in part, to compete with Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Desktop, which has achieved success in business desktop markets, and with Ubuntu 7.04, which will soon appear on Dell PCs. Some reporting about this can also be found at the company's magazine. Update: Elsewhere, talking security with Red Hat's Mark Cox.
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by segedunum on Thu 10th May 2007 22:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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I'm curious. What, specifically, can a developer do using KDE that cannot be done using GTK+/Gnome?

Rather than shout tit-for-tat I'd just say look at the applications: Look at K3B, digiKam, Umbrello, IDEs like KDevelop and GUI development with Qt Designer, graphical config tools like YaST, a file manager such as Konqueror and a new file manager called Dolphin developed in a record amount of time really, technology that binds the desktop and applications together such as DCOP (now DBUS) and KParts etc. etc.

Then look at the equivalents, and then ask yourself if any non-open source developer would go for it.

Of course, as everyone knows, programming in pure GTK in C is horrible. But I'm told the C++ API (gtkmm) is very highly regarded, as is GTK# on Mono.

What Gnome needs is not necessarily another all singing and all dancing uber cool language like C# - what's needed is an all-encompassing Gnome programming toolkit that binds the desktop and its applications together. KDE uses C++, which in many incarnations is bloody awful, but use C++ with Qt and it's a whole different experience. Build that and you have the 'wise man built his house upon the rocks' platform to create the great applications and attract users and developers alike. If Red Hat can't do that then they're wasting their time, regardless of any new uber 'we're above Windows' desktop paradigm they've found.

But to say the whole of the Gnome platform is antiquated and need massive investment to get it up to the standard of the competition just doesn't ring true to me.

Don't compare it to KDE but compare it to Windows, which no matter how much anyone pretends, that's what you're up against when it comes down to it.

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by segedunum on Thu 10th May 2007 23:23 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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Rather than shout tit-for-tat I'd just say look at the applications: Look at K3B, digiKam, Umbrello, IDEs like KDevelop and GUI development with Qt Designer...

Missed an important one out: Task Juggler. I simply haven't found any project management tool anywhere close to that kind of quality anywhere else.

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