Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th May 2007 18:17 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Intel "The Intel 965GM Express Chipset represents the first mobile product that implements fourth generation Intel graphics architecture. Designed to support advanced rendering features in modern graphics APIs, this chipset includes support for programmable vertex, geometry, and fragment shaders. Extending Intel's commitment to work with the X.org and Mesa communities to continuously improve and enhance the drivers, support for this new chipset is provided through the X.org 2.0 Intel driver and the Mesa 6.5.3 releases. These drivers represent significant work by both Intel and the broader open source community."
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Not completely free
by JMcCarthy on Fri 11th May 2007 19:35 UTC
JMcCarthy
Member since:
2005-08-12

While they seem to have made a habbit of providing "free"-drivers, they also seem to have a habbit of relying on non-free firmwares. Has this changed?

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RE: Not completely free
by Redeeman on Fri 11th May 2007 19:40 in reply to "Not completely free"
Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

Firmware doesent really matter, sure, i wouldnt mind having it as free, but its not as important to me, as that is something i consider part of the device, and it also runs on the device. however their choice of the region-controlling daemon was really poor, luckily they are rectifying that.

I always bought AMD cpu's and Nvidia graphics, this is gonna change, im getting intel for both graphics and cpu now. Why? i want freedom, and i want stability, my life just isnt long enough that i care to put up with the crap nvidia or ati would have me do.

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RE: Not completely free
by mjg59 on Fri 11th May 2007 21:09 in reply to "Not completely free"
mjg59 Member since:
2005-10-17

How many vendors ship free firmware? Right now, as far as I know that's limited to a couple of SCSI controllers. Your hard drive contains non-free firmware. If you have a laptop, the embedded controller contains non-free firmware. Non-free firmware is probably loaded into your CPU at startup. Almost all wireless cards require non-free firmware. While it would certainly be preferable to have free firmware, Intel are hardly especially evil here.

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RE: Not completely free
by rhavenn on Fri 11th May 2007 23:12 in reply to "Not completely free"
rhavenn Member since:
2006-05-12

As long as they have the docs and allow the firmware blobs to be freely downloaded it's not a problem. OpenBSD even has no issue with firmware blobs as long as they're redistributable.

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RE: Not completely free
by Mukunda on Fri 11th May 2007 23:27 in reply to "Not completely free"
Mukunda Member since:
2006-11-05

I know that their network and wifi cards have required this, the graphics cards though, at least my Intel 945 hasn't required non-free firmware, as I run gNewSense and get good 3D performance. I'm interested in seeing if it's the same with this card, as I'm wanting to get a new laptop with this more powerful graphics card.

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