Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th May 2007 22:54 UTC
Window Managers "A while ago Thomas Leonard wrote about Ubuntu integration and asked the question 'Can we get rid of ROX-Session?'. This inspired me to attempt to replace it with the Xfce session manager and it turns out that it is both easy to do and works very well."
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RE: ROX is confusing to me.
by Tom5 on Thu 17th May 2007 17:36 UTC in reply to "ROX is confusing to me."
Tom5
Member since:
2005-09-17

Debian don't package most of ROX, but it doesn't matter because you can get it all through Zero Install anyway:

http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/ROX-All

As for being a "complete" desktop, it depends what you mean. The goal is to get the desktop you want, not avoid GNOME and Xfce components on some kind of religious basis.

Free software is about being able to mix-and-match components. The Free licenses provide the legal system for this; what we need now is the architecture to make it technically possible.

And it looks like we're getting pretty close, thanks to the common standards coming out of freedesktop.org and similar groups.

Just as you should be able to install any program on any distribution (http://0install.net etc), you should be able to run any desktop application with any session manager. It's just good architecture.

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RE[2]: ROX is confusing to me.
by walterbyrd on Fri 18th May 2007 14:25 in reply to "RE: ROX is confusing to me."
walterbyrd Member since:
2005-12-31

>>As for being a "complete" desktop, it depends what you mean.<<

I'm not sure how to be more clear. If I install icewm, or xfce, then I have a WM. I don't need to install anything else (except x11) to run the gui. Is ROX like that? Or is ROX something that runs on top of another WM?

>>The goal is to get the desktop you want, not avoid GNOME and Xfce components on some kind of religious basis.<<

I'm not trying to "religious" about it. I'm just trying to understand what ROX is.

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RE[3]: ROX is confusing to me.
by Tom5 on Fri 18th May 2007 18:39 in reply to "RE[2]: ROX is confusing to me."
Tom5 Member since:
2005-09-17

I'm not sure how to be more clear. If I install icewm, or xfce, then I have a WM. I don't need to install anything else (except x11) to run the gui.

Well, Xfce depends on GTK, for example. So I'm not sure what you mean by it not needing anything else. You need to install Xfce along with all of its dependencies, just as with any other software.

ROX and Xfce are both fairly modular and have similar dependencies. They also tend to interoperate well, as lots of people use components from both. Many of the ROX applications require Python, though.

is ROX something that runs on top of another WM?

ROX is mainly a particular style of application. It favours small programs that are used together, often through drag-and-drop. The filer (ROX-Filer) provides the basic infrastructure of the desktop (rather as the shell does for a command-line user).

ROX has a window manager (OroboROX), but it works fine with most other window managers too.

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