Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th May 2007 18:54 UTC
Gnome In the GNOME bugzilla, there is an ongoing discussion about whether or not to include a patch into the default GNOME installation which would enable GNOME to (optionally) have a global application menubar, similar to that of the Mac OS and KDE (in the latter it is optional and off by default). Installation instructions and .deb packages, as well as a 60-page (and counting) discussion of the patch, are available on the UbuntuForums. Read on for a poll on this issue.
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DeadFishMan
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2006-01-09

Unfortunately, I currently donīt have any mod points left now to give you a +1. Your post describes precisely my feelings towards this "lets make it easier for the stupid crowd" trend that started a couple of years ago and has been crippling some applications for quite some time.

I agree with everything that you say but your remark about the cleanest possible UI is bloody brilliant and I think that you hit the nail on the head with that one: Only when you present a blank screen, the "simplicity people" will finally settle down for something that does not distract the user! ;)

Also, your statement about how the user cannot possibly be a newbie forever was right on the mark. One thing that these changes for usability sake never seem to address is what happens when the user outgrows the basic UI that is presented and needs to use the full extent of the software.

Nobody has ever succeeded convincing me how this usability thing fits into certain types of application, such as 3D modelling, raster and/or vectorial images editing and other specialized apps that actually REQUIRE the user to know a thing or two about what he/she is doing.

Please note that I have nothing against usability efforts per se and do appreciate when they are used properly.

As for the global menu thing, I canīt say that I have any argument against nor towards it other than it definitely breaks the focus following the mouse, which I personally donīt use but know a bunch of fellas that would cry "Bloody murder!" if you take it away from them. KDE has had it for ages, I tried it for a couple of minutes and while it didnīt affected my productivity not even a little bit, it also didnīt make it any better. Iīll join the crowd that feels that the menu bar belongs to its application window.

Edited 2007-05-18 14:57

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