Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 22nd May 2007 03:43 UTC
General Unix Would you be able to survive one full day without using the X server? Linux offers us a wide assortment of CLI based tools which use curses and/or framebuffer for functional user interfaces. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able look up stuff online, read your email, look at pictures, watch movies and listen to music as you are trying to configure X.
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RE[6]: Short answer...
by Morin on Tue 22nd May 2007 17:17 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Short answer..."
Morin
Member since:
2005-12-31

> You misunderstand. Playing video in flash is a broken concept not a
> broken implementation.

Why? It works. It works even better than most other kind of video playback I have experienced. What is so broken about it?

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RE[7]: Short answer...
by mmu_man on Tue 22nd May 2007 17:22 in reply to "RE[6]: Short answer..."
mmu_man Member since:
2006-09-30

It's not standard.
It doesn't work if you don't have a flash plugin.
It uses a generic plugin to load a code (that can be potentially malicious) to ask the plugin to display the video, which is utterly complicated for something that should be as simple as <embed src="..."/>.

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RE[8]: Short answer...
by Morin on Tue 22nd May 2007 17:38 in reply to "RE[7]: Short answer..."
Morin Member since:
2005-12-31

> It's not standard.

Are all the various video formats standard?

> It doesn't work if you don't have a flash plugin.

Video doesn't work if you don't have a player either. Even if you have a player, you may lack the necessary codecs. On the other hand, nobody I know ever had problems with the codecs when playing flash videos.

> It uses a generic plugin to load a code (that can be potentially
> malicious) to ask the plugin to display the video, which is utterly
> complicated for something that should be as simple as <embed
> src="..."/>.

This is only an issue if the relevant plugin has security issues. But the same applies to a video player. Exploits have been found in JPEG viewers before (!) so "passive" formats do not entirely protect from malware. In the end, code is passive too.

(Please understand that I'm playing the devil's advocate. In an ideal world, Flash would be an unnecessary burden for video playback. But the world isn't ideal, and there are reasons why sites like Youtube chose to build their own player - I expect the codec hassles to play a major role here.)

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