Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 22nd May 2007 03:43 UTC
General Unix Would you be able to survive one full day without using the X server? Linux offers us a wide assortment of CLI based tools which use curses and/or framebuffer for functional user interfaces. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able look up stuff online, read your email, look at pictures, watch movies and listen to music as you are trying to configure X.
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RE[4]: Short answer...
by Doc Pain on Tue 22nd May 2007 23:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Short answer..."
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"Playing video in flash is certainly broken."

"Broken" is not the word I would have used. I'd say (ab)using "Flash" as a replacement for HTML, images and video streaming is sick.

Most video portals today use "Flash". I would not complain if "Flash" would be an open standard, implemented as a standard feature in every major browser, such as the Javascript interpreter or the HTML and image renderer. But it's not that easy today. I think the company manufacturing "Flash" is to be blamed here, as well as the content providers pushing "Flash" onto users' desktops.

"We already have perfectly fine media players to play videos on. eg. mplayer"

We had them years ago, but nobody uses them. Open standards? Pah! Interoperability? Hah! Worst solution always wins. :-)

"There is no reason to force a user to use a media player that the site owner decides."

But that's the way it is. You want this? You need that. Some web sites even require outdated and strange browsers to work, and why is this? Because some Skriptkiddie is not smart enough to use Javascript properly.

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RE[5]: Short answer...
by sbergman27 on Tue 22nd May 2007 23:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Short answer..."
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"Broken" is not the word I would have used. I'd say (ab)using "Flash" as a replacement for HTML, images and video streaming is sick.

Broken, abused, or sick, I must say that when I run into a site with embedded Flash video, I know it is going to work on a Flash-capable Linux box.

Even with the various mplayer, vlc, and Real plugins installed, I usually read "Click Here To View a Mother Fighting Off a Shark To Save Her Kids" as "Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here". Typically, I get a popup embedded "player" that just sits there dead on the screen asking if I'm high or low bandwidth, and whether I want Windows Media or Real Video.

I hate flash. But I will give it credit for actually working across platforms.

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