Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd May 2007 15:22 UTC, submitted by kev009
General Unix Prior to the general availability of AIX 6, IBM intends to make a pre-release version of AIX 6 available in an open beta. "AIX is an open, standards-based UNIX operating system that provides the enterprise information technology infrastructure for thousands of clients around the world. IBM intends to take the next step in the evolution of the AIX operating system with the release of the AIX V6.1 OS."
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RE[4]: New Features
by boing on Wed 23rd May 2007 17:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: New Features"
boing
Member since:
2007-05-22

I can tell you when Solaris 10 first came out, they were not releasing Patch Clusters every two weeks. I remember looking for them, and the first Patch Cluster took MONTHS to be released. Their push with Solaris 10 was using SMPATCH and UPDATEMANAGER for updates. The problem was these were not production ready and caused problems. Second the patch/package system didn't work well with Solaris 10 with ZONES running.

But it looks like your right now in days, Solaris 10 patch clusters seem to be updated every two weeks. But this was not always the case (like you said have been the case for years, not true).

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RE[5]: New Features
by Robert Escue on Wed 23rd May 2007 18:07 in reply to "RE[4]: New Features"
Robert Escue Member since:
2005-07-08

I know that in the past Sun has tried to push using updatemanager and smpatch, and a number of people have had major issues with it (myself included), so I went to the the tried and true Patch Cluster method.

My statement is not limited to Solaris 10, all versions of Solaris that Sun supports have Patch Clusters available and are released roughly every two weeks. As far as Sun not making Patch Clusters available in order to force people to use updatemanager and smpatch, I have no idea. When I needed a Patch Cluster for Solaris 10, there was one available and it was produced within the last couple of weeks.

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RE[6]: New Features
by boing on Wed 23rd May 2007 18:17 in reply to "RE[5]: New Features"
boing Member since:
2007-05-22

I have been using Solaris 10 since it was released originally. When it was released originally patch clusters were not happening very often. That is why I started using smpatch and updatemanager. I don't think it was them forcing people, just they didn't keep up with things for Solaris 10. So I continued to use smpatch, patchadd, and updatemanager. After using it for awhile it eventually put 2 systems into a corrupted state.

But I will agree with you, I suggest anyone doing patching on Solaris stick with the Patch Clusters. As you said you, and I know I, have both had issues with the smpatch and updatemanager tools.

Also I found that some 3rd party packages can corrupt things also. Which is another reason why I would like to see a better package management system.

So your safe bet, use only Sun packages, and use patch clusters. At least until they fix the package management to prevent 3rd party apps from corrupting things, and smaptch/updatemanager.

But it is hard to tell what works or not until you get bitten.

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