Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2007 21:08 UTC
Window Managers "If you use a traditional desktop like GNOME or KDE, a keyboard-controlled desktop with a minimum of utilities may seem like stepping back 10 or 15 years in the history of interface design. Why bother, when traditional desktops are easy to use and RAM and disk space are so cheap nowadays?" On a related note, there is a new release of xmonad, a tiling window manager for X, written in Haskell. It now has full Xinerama and XRandR support, so you can add, remove, or rotate monitors on the fly.
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RE[2]: Keyboard == awesome
by soapdog on Fri 1st Jun 2007 13:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Keyboard == awesome"
soapdog
Member since:
2005-07-25

I just selected the part you said I could not with the mouse, so I don't understand your argument to disfavor it. really.

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RE[3]: Keyboard == awesome
by zizban on Fri 1st Jun 2007 14:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Keyboard == awesome"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

I could do it too.

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RE[3]: Keyboard == awesome
by bogomipz on Fri 1st Jun 2007 15:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Keyboard == awesome"
bogomipz Member since:
2005-07-11

This is not a problem with the rodent device itself. I think the only place you'll see it is in Microsoft Word, which tries to be "intelligent" with its mouse input handling. It can be very frustrating when you wanted to cut/copy from the middle of a word to the end of the sentence, and Word insists that you must have all or nothing...

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RE[3]: Keyboard == awesome
by Henrik on Fri 1st Jun 2007 22:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Keyboard == awesome"
Henrik Member since:
2006-01-03

Please don't use C-syntax like == in normal conversation, it's just silly.

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

It's a bad example, but the poster is correct - keyboard shortcuts generally are significantly faster/more precise for working with text. The text manipulation keyboard shortcuts are one of the few aspects of Windows that is actually clever (and, predictably enough, appears to be there solely as a hold-over from the DOS days). E.g., hold Ctrl and press the right/left arrow - the cursor jumps forward/backward by one word. Or the home/end keys, which take you to the beginning/end of a line - or to the beginning/end of a document, if modified with Ctrl. And all of those actions can be further modified by holding down the Shift key (E.g., Ctrl-Shift-Right Arrow or Shift-End) to select text in the same way.

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RE[4]: Keyboard == awesome
by Moulinneuf on Sat 2nd Jun 2007 06:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Keyboard == awesome"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

And they need to include a pony with every purchase. ( 97 )

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RE[4]: Keyboard == awesome
by Henrik on Sat 2nd Jun 2007 23:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Keyboard == awesome"
Henrik Member since:
2006-01-03

I agree fully. But some of it is actually older than MS-DOS, borrowed from the "terminals" that were used before personal computers and, then, graphical interfaces became common.

As I see it, the most productive combination would be lots of standardized and fast keyboard commands coupled with a pen, that inherently would give a much better precision than the quite unatural mouse. The pen would be used for the few kinds of tasks (such as free hand drawing) that really cannot be done by keys only.

Strangely enough, many unix/linux fans for a long period of time (the last 20 years or so) seemed to prefer text-based interfaces (such as "terminal windows") but still using a mouse. More or less the worst of two worlds IMHO...

Don't take this the wrong way - I hate MS too - I just like some of their conventions ;)

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