Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Jun 2007 15:05 UTC, submitted by Michael
AMD "Last year when AMD announced their acquisition of ATI it led many to wonder how this would impact the quality of their Linux support and driver. Some had even speculated that AMD would be opening the code to at least a subset of their graphics drivers, and while this issue has come up again more recently, we will cover this particular topic in a different article. In this article we will be exposing what truly consists of the ATI/AMD driver development cycle and ultimately what they are really doing to improve their image in the Linux community."
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RE: ATI Drivers
by Kokopelli on Sun 3rd Jun 2007 01:56 UTC in reply to "ATI Drivers "
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Well what people seem to forget is that a very large portion of the Linux Geeks are also employed in the IT Industry. They have major influence on the type of hardware that is purchased in the business world, that my friend is not a small market.


I almost hate to rain on all this feel good "we may be small in numbers but we have a lot of influence" parade but this does not hold water either. Have you ever worked in IT in the SMB or Enterprise markets? Sure IT workers have influence on purchases but "should we get a computer with ATI" does not enter the picture. Vendor reliability, service level agreements, support, lease terms, and of course cost are the driving factors. The only place where I can see video cards being brought up most of the time would be laptop purchases and there I would push for Intel if anything. Not because of cost but due to reliability.

There are some vertical markets where this would be a consideration but they are small, and generally the Mac crowd would hold more sway than Linux in these cases. In the home market the social circles of geeks hold some sway, but this is not the type of thing that is weighed in a decision in the vast majority of the time in the business world.

Edited 2007-06-03 01:56

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RE[2]: ATI Drivers
by marcus0263 on Sun 3rd Jun 2007 03:12 in reply to "RE: ATI Drivers "
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2007-06-02

"I almost hate to rain on all this feel good "we may be small in numbers but we have a lot of influence" parade but this does not hold water either. Have you ever worked in IT in the SMB or Enterprise markets?"

Worked in the Enterprise for close to 15 Years, what you're saying is true with the Vendors. But are you saying we don't have a choice on the hardware spec's?

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RE[3]: ATI Drivers
by Kokopelli on Sun 3rd Jun 2007 07:11 in reply to "RE[2]: ATI Drivers "
Kokopelli Member since:
2005-07-06

Worked in the Enterprise for close to 15 Years, what you're saying is true with the Vendors. But are you saying we don't have a choice on the hardware spec's?


No, what I am saying is that the choice of video card is not pertinent nor is it likely to come up as a factor in the decision of hardware. RAM, CPU, HD Configuration (especially on servers) are all very important. But the video card is not a factor at all on servers. For deskptops/laptops, at the anything above small business the default gpu for whatever model is being bought will be left alone unless there is some special purpose that requires its replacement with an upgrade.

You said that many Linux advocates work in IT (which is true). And that they influence what hardware is bought in the enterprise (also true). And by implication that this has/can have a significant impact on the number of business systems bought with ATI gpus in them Here is where my opinion differs.

Out of the systems that are bought for a business how many do you think have an upgraded video card? And out of those upgrades, in your opinion are a significant number of them chosen NOT to be ATI due to their (lack of) Linux support.

My contention is that this bad blood many linux advocates feel for ATI is not particularly traumatic to ATI's bottom line. I am sure it does have an impact, but it is my opinion (as I stated before) that ATI has weighed the cost in good will and found it to be less than the cost of developing and supporting good drivers for Linux and other alternative Operating Systems. I have faith that eventually they will support Linux better than they do now, but I do not think it will be the threat of a Linux user boycott that will do it. Wanting contracts and good will with the Dell's of the world are more important to their vision. In an ironic twist I believe at least one of the Dell systems shipping with Ubuntu has a ATI GPU does it not?

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