Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jun 2007 20:42 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes "I remember the day I was interviewed at VMware. I was asked what I would do to improve Workstation, and one of the things I said was that it would be nice to make a VM go rootless. That is, pull application windows out of the VM and make them integrate well with the operating system. I wasn't the only one. A lot of people wanted this type of feature. It's been discussed for years, but it's always been hard to find the manpower to do it. But competition is good, and we finally got some people on this feature. And it turned out spectacularly."
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RE: Patents FUD
by Belial6 on Thu 7th Jun 2007 03:48 UTC in reply to "Patents FUD"
Belial6
Member since:
2007-06-07

I like VMWare as a product, and I have purchased Workstation, but this is just plain BS...

"It targets x86 processors, of course, for which virtualization did not exist before VMware invented it. "

Maybe you are new to computers, but by 97, a year before VMWare was even founded PC Virtualization was not only out there, but had been out for some time. PC-Task was already on version 3.1, and it was being included on magazine covers.

"The December 1997 issue represented a contradiction in the Amiga market. If it was dying, as many were saying, how could CU Amiga afford to increase the number of pages from 108 (where it had been since November 1996) to 116? Having expanded the Amiga in the past year, CU set its sights on running software on the improved processors. The December edition gave away the full version of PC Task 3.1, with MS DOS 3.3, allowing Amiga users to run 286 software."

The full article can be found here: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/cuamiga5.html

And for Hardware Virtualization of the x86 there was the Emplant. A review of the system can be found in this newsletter from 1995:
http://www.cucug.org/sr/sr9510.html

In 1996 I saw Amiga WordWorth, Mac Word, and x86 Wordperfect all running side by side on a single computer. Well, actually top to bottom, as it was on an Amiga.

So, besides the fact that emulating yet another common processor is so obvious it is painful, VMware wasn't even close to the the first to 'Invent' x86 Virtualization.

Perhaps instead of trying to defend VMWares exploitation of the patent system, you could apologize for 'pirating' other peoples 'intellectual property'.

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RE[2]: Patents FUD
by HPReg on Thu 7th Jun 2007 06:28 in reply to "RE: Patents FUD"
HPReg Member since:
2007-06-07

I'm talking about virtualization, not emulation.

I stand by my claim: VMware was the first company to virtualize the x86 processor.

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RE[3]: Patents FUD
by mmu_man on Thu 7th Jun 2007 09:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Patents FUD"
mmu_man Member since:
2006-09-30

VMware was the first company to virtualize the x86 processor.
Certainly not.
Windows 3.1 extended mode had the DOS box way before.
It wasn't fully virtualized, couldn't actually "boot" but it really virtualized some things like I/O calls.

It's not like anyone comes up with everything out of the box in CS. It's just a continuity from older stuff.

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RE[3]: Patents FUD
by nevali on Thu 7th Jun 2007 14:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Patents FUD"
nevali Member since:
2006-10-12

I stand by my claim: VMware was the first company to virtualize the x86 processor.


I'm pretty sure OS/2 2.0 did it before any VMware products.

Or, for that matter, DESQview.

“Better DOS than DOS, better Windows than Windows”, if memory serves.

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