Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Jun 2007 20:02 UTC, submitted by Michael
AMD "Last week we had published The Truth About ATI/AMD & Linux, and to no real surprise, the feedback ranged from beliefs that it was propaganda to others being grateful that AMD finally shared some additional information with their Linux customers about the fglrx development cycle. While the article was far from being propaganda, what had outraged a number of open-source developers were AMD's comments on the R200 support or there the lack of. In this article, we have a few additional comments to share along with what some open-source developers had to say about AMD's information."
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Questions
by sbergman27 on Fri 8th Jun 2007 20:36 UTC
sbergman27
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2005-07-24

Just throwing out a few questions on things that surprised me from the article:

1. Lastest Intel GMA chipsets do not have specs released? I thought they did.

2. 2D nv driver is *provided* by NVidia? I thought that the nv driver was a reverse enginieering effort. (Not to be confused with the 2D/3D Nouveau effort.)

3. Original R200 specs from ATI were provided to only a few people, under NDA, and were quite incomplete. I didn't know that, but it really shouldn't... and doesn't... surprise me.

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RE: Questions
by ubit on Fri 8th Jun 2007 20:41 in reply to "Questions"
ubit Member since:
2006-09-08

nv is provided by nVidia to Xorg, and only they can maintain it. Nouveau is not using any nv code (in fact they based off a BeOS/Haiku reverse eng'd nvidia 3d driver) because nv code was obfuscated in 1999, maybe done to prevent 3d use.

I saw a mailing list link a few days ago where Keith Packard said he was trying to get Intel to release the new specifications for new GMA chipsets...

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RE[2]: Questions
by anonymous_coward on Sat 9th Jun 2007 21:44 in reply to "RE: Questions"
anonymous_coward Member since:
2005-11-15

Nouveau is not using any nv code

That's not true. DDX part (xf86-video-nouveau) is based on nv driver. If you don't believe me, you can look at any source file and read copyright info (for instance http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=nouveau/xf86-video-nouveau.git;a=b... ). Nouveau developers were deobfuscating nv source code (it's still in the TODO list -> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ToDo ). More information here -> http://airlied.livejournal.com/34017.html

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