Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 12th Jun 2007 01:16 UTC
Apple When Steve Jobs mentioned a few weeks ago that there will be "some sort of app development" for the iPhone, everyone assumed he meant widgets. Widgets are less powerful than native applications, and depending on the underlying OS hooks offered, they can be even less powerful than J2ME apps. But when Jobs came out today to outright sell us Web 2.0 and said that "no SDK required", I felt cheated.
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RE[3]: Exactly...
by Luminair on Tue 12th Jun 2007 07:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Exactly..."
Luminair
Member since:
2007-03-30

Do they really want applications? What applications? A map, for instance?

Apple is betting that everything you need is already there. Not that I agree, but that IS the typical Apple Way.

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RE[4]: Exactly...
by Eugenia on Tue 12th Jun 2007 07:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Exactly..."
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

>Apple is betting that everything you need is already there.

Then Apple is going to lose the bet. They are striving for 10 million units. If you think that all these 10 million people are going to need the exact same thing, you are way out of your league.

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RE[5]: Exactly...
by Kroc on Tue 12th Jun 2007 08:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Exactly..."
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

There are more than 10 million people in the pool of potential buyers - Apple are betting that the 10 million people in that pool who do need the exact same thing are going to choose an iPhone.

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RE[5]: Exactly...
by Luminair on Tue 12th Jun 2007 09:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Exactly..."
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

There is no doubt that there are at LEAST 10 million people out there would be very satisfied with the best phone, music player, video player, SMS, street mapping, and web browser all in one device. It's just a question of price for most of them. If Apple doesn't reach their sales goals at the first price, they'll change the value proposition as much as possible until the goals are met.

I think you trip up in thinking that this is just a "smartphone". That's like calling a Mac "just a computer". Style sells just like sex does. The crazy people in the Jobs Reality Distortion Field are buying Apple products for different reasons than Windows PC or Windows Mobile buyers. So between nerds (HTC users?) and normal people (nokia users?) and Mac people, I think they will find a healthy market.

Edited 2007-06-12 09:55 UTC

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RE[4]: Exactly...
by Moochman on Tue 12th Jun 2007 10:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Exactly..."
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

Do they really want applications? What applications? A map, for instance?

Games. Without J2ME support they are missing out on a huge opportunity. Especially considering that every other phone out there, even the very cheapest ones, support this.

How on earth Steve got it into his head that J2ME support will somehow make the phone crash is beyond me.

...Of course, how one would control those games, without having any hardware buttons to control them, is another question.

Edited 2007-06-12 10:35

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