Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jun 2007 15:58 UTC, submitted by Jeremy Fox
Carbon will not be 64bit in Leopard. "At last year's keynote, Apple had claimed that both Carbon and Cocoa would be 64-bit, adding to the 64-bit fundamentals that Tiger had laid. However, according to the latest on Apple's website, Leopard's 64-bit frameworks will include the POSIX and math libraries found in Tiger, Cocoa, Quartz, OpenGL, and X11 GUI framework. In addition, Apple confirms that Carbon will not be 64-bit on the Carbon Developer mailing list." In addition, the readme file included with Leopard's developer preview says G3 support will be dropped from Leopard.
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RE[3]: Vista? (bye bye rating points)
by _mikk on Thu 14th Jun 2007 18:05
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RE[3]: Vista? (bye bye rating points)
by biffuz on Fri 15th Jun 2007 08:22
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1.) There are 900MHz G3 iBooks out there.
I feel Tiger slow on my iBook G4 800... much slower than XP on a 800 MHz Pentium III. I don't believe they can make Leopard faster than Tiger in any appreciable way, so I'm not going to upgrade this machine.
2.) Tiger on a G3 is as fast as Panther on a G3 which is MUCH faster than 10.2 on a G3, which was the preinstalled OS on those iBooks. So if you claim that running Tiger on these machines is a pain, you'll have to argue that using these machines was an even bigger pain when they were brand-new.
Back in the days, there were a lot of people who wanted to switch back to OS9 exactly for this reason!
RE[4]: Vista? (bye bye rating points)
by spanglywires on Sat 16th Jun 2007 19:50
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You have to remember the G4 was pretty much a G3+Altivec. A 900Mhz G3 ought to be faster in day to day use than a G4 800Mhz.
Now, 10.1 and 10.3 were definitely faster than Tiger on my flat panel iMac. In fact, so bad I bought a Intel iMac. Tiger was a hog. Since they've ported dtrace, they may be able to do the tuning magic Sun did with Solaris 10 which really made a fantastic difference (really, go use good old Slowaris 8, then switch to 10).
So I will be peeved if my Intel iMac runs Leopard like a dog!
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> Also really... running a G3 on Tiger is already a pain.
Not true.
1.) There are 900MHz G3 iBooks out there.
2.) Tiger on a G3 is as fast as Panther on a G3 which is MUCH faster than 10.2 on a G3, which was the preinstalled OS on those iBooks. So if you claim that running Tiger on these machines is a pain, you'll have to argue that using these machines was an even bigger pain when they were brand-new.