Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Jun 2007 22:17 UTC, submitted by prymitive
GNU, GPL, Open Source A lengthy debate that began with a suggestion to dual license the Linux kernel under the GPLv2 and the GPLv3 continues on the Linux Kernel Mailing List. Throughout the ongoing thread Linux creator Linus Torvalds has spoken out on the GPLv2, the upcoming GPLv3, the BSD license, Tivo, the Free Software Foundation, and much more. During the discussion, he was asked we he chose the GPLv2 over the BSD license when he's obviously not a big fan of the FSF.
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RE: What about this case?
by lemur2 on Sat 16th Jun 2007 08:06 UTC in reply to "What about this case?"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

If tivo only produces the hardware. Another company distributes different versions of linux, which are free and can be modified. However tivo's chips only support one specific version of linux.

Is there any terms in GPLv3 saying that tivo cannot sell such hardware


TiVo are at liberty to sell whatever hardware they want. They are not at liberty to sell to downstream users systems that contain GPLv3 software without also giving downstream recipient's the same rights to the GPLv3 software that TiVo got in the first place. TiVo have no right to place on downstream recipients restrictions that were not placed on TiVo. That is, TiVO must be prepared to give to any downstream recipient who asks the source code to the GPLv3 parts of their product, and they must also give downstream recipients the means to use that GPLv3 source code to change if they want to the GPLv3 parts that are included in TiVo's product.

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RE[2]: What about this case?
by whzhao on Sat 16th Jun 2007 09:02 in reply to "RE: What about this case?"
whzhao Member since:
2007-06-16

I mean, when TiVo sell their hardware, they do not install linux. What they sell is just the hardware.

(They might use another non-free OS pre-installed on the system, but their hardware has a feature to run only one version of linux.)

An end user finds this feature and gets the linux distribution from somewhere and installs it on the TiVo system.

Is there anything not liable by GPLv3?

Edited 2007-06-16 09:09

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RE[3]: What about this case?
by pepa on Sat 16th Jun 2007 10:49 in reply to "RE[2]: What about this case?"
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2005-07-08

Interesting point: if the only-hardware Tivo would only accept 1 particular to-be-downloaded from another propagator, would they still violate the GPLv3? They wouldn't propagate the software then.

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