"There's been a lot of talk on lists and blogs about an exchange between Linus Torvalds, Jonathan Schwartz and Theo de Raadt regarding licensing and documentation. It all started with a 'cynical' message from Linus about Sun's motivation with regard to Open Source. Jonathan Schwartz responded by extending Linus a dinner invitation. What? The romance was briefly interrupted by a message from Theo pointing out the doublespeak."
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Member since:2005-07-12
GPL's projects don't seem to be limited in number by that fact, nor do they seem to be lacking in developers.
If projects licensed under non-GPL licenses are having such a code orgy, then why do they need (or even care about) code which is licensed under the GPL?
Edited 2007-06-17 08:09
Member since:2005-07-06
If they don't seem to he limited, then why do we have people whining, whinging and complaining over ZFS and other CDDL and how evil OpenSolaris is because GPL projects can't pinch things from it. Cry me a river.
We don't need code from GPL projects - its your camp, the GPL camp who want code from our projects! please, our camp is more than happy to share, if we could do like wise from your code. You want a one way transfer, we want cross pollination, where code can be shared amongst all projects.
All I'm hearing from Linux is a giant sucking sound of code but giving very little in return to the parent projects whom which they leach code from. Its the equivalent of a proprietary vendor embracing BSD code and refusing to give back the changes.
Member since:2005-07-06
[i]If projects licensed under non-GPL licenses are having such a code orgy, then why do they need (or even care about) code which is licensed under the GPL?<i/>
What we are talking about is open source, why spend unnecessary effort and reinvent the wheel? Apparently that viewpoint is fine as far as lifting BSD code into Linux. The other way around does not work without major license issues (a compiled FreeBSD kernel that includes a GPL licensed subsystem will thereby be GPL licensed).
There are lots of opensource projects that have stalled and died because of reinventing the wheel and lacking developers, that includes a lot of GPL software.
Member since:2005-07-06
There is a code orgy going on between the various *BSD's, and Linux is the odd one out because Linus chose to use a licence that deliberately separates itself from the 'mainstream open source movement' - remember kiddies, the FSF and GPL do not equate to open source.
Yeah, that sums up the GPL attitude nicely. I you use a license that's incompatible with the GPL is your fault for choosing a crappy license and you deserve to be publicly ridiculed and hounded for your lack of freedom.
It's stupid - how can you defend openness with such a closed mind ?
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2005-07-06
If these people are going to complain about patents, why don't we (CDDL/OpenSolaris) people complain about how the GPL deliberately inhibits cross pollination between projects.
There is a code orgy going on between the various *BSD's, and Linux is the odd one out because Linus chose to use a licence that deliberately separates itself from the 'mainstream open source movement' - remember kiddies, the FSF and GPL do not equate to open source.