Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Jun 2007 18:35 UTC, submitted by troy.unrau
PC-BSD "PC-BSD is not a Linux distribution, but rather it could be considered among the first major FreeBSD-based distributions to live outside of the official FreeBSD. Like most distributions, it has implemented certain features in a way that attempts to distinguish it from the competition, and I will focus mostly on these differences. This test drive is intended to give an overview of what PC-BSD is and why one would consider using it."
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RE[3]: Not a fan
by Zoidberg on Wed 20th Jun 2007 01:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Not a fan"
Zoidberg
Member since:
2006-02-11

No, it just requires the user to be able (and wanting) to read instructions from the excellent FreeBSD documentation (i. e. the handbook). Installing and configuring a "real" FreeBSD is some work, I agree, but it's not as hard as you may think. Of course, it does require basic knowledge.

For people who barely know how to turn their computer on I think that is asking way too much. Again PC-BSD is not aimed at people who know that much about computers, or people who want to read technical manuals and do all that work.

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RE[4]: Not a fan
by antik on Wed 20th Jun 2007 07:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Not a fan"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

I don't know from where this "PC-BSD is not suitable for die hard FreeBSD hackers" come from. In reality hackers need working system "right now" and won't tinker around for week to design their own custom installation because they just can. Time is money you know. More tinkerfree time- more beautiful code. PC-BSD is unmodified FreeBSD without any custom optimization, except preconfigured configuration, enabled functionality like OpenBSD PF firewall, DRM(Direct Rendering Manager for graphics acceleration) and ALTQ (QoS- Quality of Service) in modified GENERIC kernel.

Only major differences are written from scratch in Qt graphical installer (not based on RedHat Anaconda like some Linux zealot may think), PBI (Push Button Installer) and system configuration tools like "network/wifi/pppoe manager" etc.

Everything is BSD licensed and anyone who want to make PC-BSD tools available in FreeBSD ports are welcome.

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RE[5]: Not a fan
by Doc Pain on Wed 20th Jun 2007 20:00 in reply to "RE[4]: Not a fan"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"I don't know from where this "PC-BSD is not suitable for die hard FreeBSD hackers" come from."

Yes, I just like to add thatt PC-BSD is definitely not suitable for all "die hard FreeBSD hackers".

"In reality hackers need working system "right now" and won't tinker around for week to design their own custom installation because they just can."

Again, this is not true for all of them, allthough I agree with your statement besides this small consideration about allquantification here.

There are "FreeBSD hackers" around who don't feel familiar with the PC-BSD default installation, maybe because the CLI subsystem is a mess by default, maybe because KDE slows them down doing their work, maybe because the tools they usually use are not available via PBI. There are many reasons that are imaginable.

"Time is money you know. More tinkerfree time- more beautiful code. PC-BSD is unmodified FreeBSD without any custom optimization, except preconfigured configuration, enabled functionality like OpenBSD PF firewall, DRM(Direct Rendering Manager for graphics acceleration) and ALTQ (QoS- Quality of Service) in modified GENERIC kernel."

This is a good characterisation, in fact. Some "FreeBSD hackers" do require a certain grade of customization that they won't find in PC-BSD or FreeBSD by default.

"Everything is BSD licensed and anyone who want to make PC-BSD tools available in FreeBSD ports are welcome."

As far as I know, there is already an (experimental?) PBI installation manager for FreeBSD. As far as I know, most management tools rely upon KDE and are available for NetBSD or most KDE based Linusi, too.

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