Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Jun 2007 09:26 UTC, submitted by TB
Internet & Networking "Apple's Safari is making its way to the Windows platform with the serious intention of making a dent in the market. As brilliant as the people are at Apple, I can't help but laugh at their, to put it politely, delusion. Before I ramble on too much, here are my five reasons why Safari will fail on the Windows platform." My take: Safari on Windows isn't here to take over the Windows browsing market. It's here for the iPhone.
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by shykid on Wed 20th Jun 2007 17:41 UTC in reply to "RE: OPERA"
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Opera still defaults to identifying itself as IE6 running on WinXp regardless of whether you run it on *nix or Windows, so Browser ID generated statistics don't tell the whole Opera story.

I think Opera began identifying as Opera by default in version 8.0. It even identifies itself without the usual mess of compatibility crud. For instance, my user agent is:

Opera/9.21 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)

It wouldn't be much different if I was on my SuSE partition, something along the lines of:

Opera/9.21 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)

I commend Opera Software on this. It's about time we did away with the "like Gecko", "Mozilla compatible" user agent thing. If Opera can function just fine without it, I think all browsers could; if not, they could change user agents on a case-by-case basis until virtually no sites require user-agent compatibility strings. Hell, I don't think there are that many left nowadays, anyway, so it wouldn't hurt to speed up the process a bit.

That being said, you very well could be right--Opera may be spoofing user agents on a case-by-case basis. I'm not certain of the inner-workings of Opera's browser.js file. All I know is it's an automatically updated collection of rendering exceptions and fixes for non-compliant sites that don't play nice with Opera. Opera could be using it to spoof user agents.

But I don't think it'd do spoofing on a majority of sites, though, and us regular ole Opera users are still unfortunately few and far between. I think Opera Mini has a higher "market share" than their desktop browser.

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