Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 06:08 UTC
Windows ITWire: "Linux users can, at times, be the worst kind of ingrates, whining and complaining about what they perceive as missing features in a free operating system. My advice to all such whingers: spend 10 days using the latest version of Windows and you'll realise that you are living in a world of relative bliss."
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RE[3]: With all due respect...
by stare on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 14:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: With all due respect..."
stare
Member since:
2005-07-06

The UI in Linux is the most consistent you can possibly find. No other Desktop OS is as consistent as Linux/*BSD on the Desktop.

You mean it's finally posible to remove entries from gnome menu by right-clicking it and choosing "remove" in this super-consistent UI? Or it's finally possible to change the window titlebar size without messing with gtkrc files? </sarcasm>

And the look is light years ahead of Windows - even considering the flower-power Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/Vi...
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=790&slide=2...

Yeah, really light years ahead </sarcasm>

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RE[4]: With all due respect...
by jaylaa on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 14:54 in reply to "RE[3]: With all due respect..."
jaylaa Member since:
2006-01-17

You mean it's finally posible to remove entries from gnome menu by right-clicking it and choosing "remove" in this super-consistent UI?

How would being able to remove menu entries by right-clicking on them make Gnome more consistent? Sure, I'd like that feature, but not having it doesn't make it inconsistent. There is a GUI for doing this BTW.

Or it's finally possible to change the window titlebar size without messing with gtkrc files?

Yes, yes there is. How does one do this in Windows?

And as for those screen shots (neither of them attractive); at least the Gnome desktop look can be changed easily. What do you have to buy (or hack) to theme Vista?

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RE[5]: With all due respect...
by Coxy on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 19:46 in reply to "RE[4]: With all due respect..."
Coxy Member since:
2006-07-01

'Yes, yes there is. How does one do this in Windows?'

The fact that there is no readily available way of doing this shows that all the usability studies conducted by ms probably indicated that people couldn't care about how many pixels high their title bars are.

This is the problem with linux (and oss in general). Look at the preference windows for example in seamonkey, miranda, or gaim and compare them to pidgin. pigdin is more concernced with giving the options users actually need and not what developers think would impress other developers. There so blinded by details that they forget to look at the software as a whole.

I know someone who uses a computer everyday and one day said she's seen everything there is to see on the internet. I asked her what she meant... it turned out the internet to her was the aol news channel that opens when the aol software is started. She had no comprehension of what the internet is. She had two avs running, about 50 things running in the system tray, four office suits (all installed by well meaning friends trying to convince her that ms is evil), and several browsers.

She still uses word to this day and had no idea that there were other word processors, nor why the computer slowed down (the two avs). Its people like this that ms have to also cater for, which is why you won't and shouldn't find options in windows to adjust the pixel spacing between the close window button an the minimise button.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Right-clicking on a menu item to remove has nothing to do with consistency. It would be nice to be able to do that, but of some obscure reason we can't. Just like we cannot easily change the visual appearance in Windows besides a few pre-defined (by Microsoft) options.

Your screenshots prove nothing. You took standard look of Ubuntu and compared with Vista. You can easily find themes for Gnome or KDE utilizing Compiz that beats the Vista look.

Just like Clearlooks beats the kIdZ-hAd-FuN look of XP.

Tell me how to use my own visual styles with XP without violating the MS EULA. Oops.. one can't. Boohoo.

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sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

WindowBlinds.

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RE[5]: With all due respect...
by makc on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 17:00 in reply to "RE[4]: With all due respect..."
makc Member since:
2006-01-11

Visual Styles - anyway ;P

Edited 2007-06-22 17:00

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