Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 20:12 UTC
Apple Apple's first Windows beta release of Safari had some nasty bugs, most importantly one where bold text wouldn't render on non-English versions of Windows. Since the 3.0.2 release has 'fixes for text display, non-English systems', this bug might by fixed. In addition, Security Update 2007-006 for Mac OS 10.3.9 and Mac OS 10.4.9 and later has been released. The update addresses two vulnerabilities in WebKit, one of which could lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.
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RE: Working great now but...
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 21:23 UTC in reply to "Working great now but..."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

but why are fonts blurred?

They're not blurred, they just use a different rendering engine (the one in OS X).

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html

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RE[2]: Working great now but...
by JrezIN on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 21:45 in reply to "RE: Working great now but..."
JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

I just hope Apple enable ClearType there... It works much better (IMHO)... (The reason as there font rendering works "ok" in MacOS X are the fonts installed in the system designed for this system, but I don't think the result is quite up to the same final quality working on Windows).

...and yes, it's blurrier than CT... =] (may respect better some shapes, but I'd prefer easier reading)


...in other subject, the app still have some problems with 100% consuption on several sites, but it's MUCH better than 3.0.0 was! I hope they continue to improve like than, solve some plugins' performance problems and somehow add sessions to help saving your browsing with crashes and personal preferences.)

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elmimmo Member since:
2005-09-17

> The reason as there font rendering works "ok" in MacOS X are the fonts installed in the system designed for this system, but I don't think the result is quite up to the same final quality working on Windows

They work as OK (or as bad) in Mac OS X as they do in Safari for Windows. Windows renderer prefers sharpness by distorting fonts so as to make them stick to absolute pixel coordinates, at the expense of their original shape; Mac OS X (and Safari's) renderer prefers honoring the typeface original shape at the expense of having to antialias vertical and horizontal lines.

Fonts look the same in OS X as they look in Safari. I guess it is a matter of preference/getting used to.

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RE[2]: Working great now but...
by siimo on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 21:49 in reply to "RE: Working great now but..."
siimo Member since:
2006-06-22

Are all fonts on OS X that "blurry"? Seriously that looks terrible on my monitor. I tried out Safari last week and it worked fine but no matter what font smoothing setting I set in the preferences they looked too blurry.

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RE[3]: Working great now but...
by D3M0N on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 22:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Working great now but..."
D3M0N Member since:
2005-07-09

I haven't really had a chance to use Safari on Windows, but I've never noticed fonts being blurry in OS X, let alone Safari. In fact, OS X's fonts look the cleanest out of any OS (Windows/Linux, etc..) - to me.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Most likely XP's Font Engine interpolates the result poorly.

The Fonts via OS X are very rich.

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Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

For me it looks blurred:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5632/untitled1mc7.gif

While this is ok when you try the browser every once in a while, I wouldn't work on a computer that has dirty fonts like that. Does Safari have cleaner fonts in OS X?

I hope they improve fonts rendering in the future.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

For me it looks blurred

Fine, then they're blurred to you. But as Joel said in that blog post I linked you to, this "blurriness" (it's actually "fuzziness") is a trade-off which is made to please the print professionals who use the Mac.

The fonts in OSX are all like that, yes. I use OSX, Windows, and Linux. While I like OS X's fonts when using OS X, they look extremely crappy and out of place on my Vista box (when running Safari). I'm sure the same would be the case for Windows' fonts on OS X.

I hope they improve fonts rendering in the future.

OSX' font rendering will remain the way it is. Cleartype and Apple's method both serve a different purpose; in some cases, you want the fonts on your screen to look like how they are printed [OSX], and sometimes you want them to be best for readability [Cleartype].

Different ends, different means.

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