Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Jun 2007 13:44 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Federkiel writes: "People working with Apple computers are used to a very consistent user experience. For a large part this stems from the fact that the Lisa type of GUI does not have the fight between MDI and SDI. The question simply never arises, because the Lisa type of GUI does not offer the choice to create either of both; it's something different all along. I usually think of it as 'MDI on steroids unified with a window manager'. It virtually includes all benefits of a SDI and and the benefits of an MDI." Read on for how I feel about this age-old discussion.
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Well...
by twenex on Sun 24th Jun 2007 15:04 UTC
twenex
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2006-04-21

...I'm glad someone else finally admitted that there's no way to measure usability, because I've been saying this for years. Having said that, the each-application-has-its-own-menu approach (which both Linux* and Windows suffer from) really sucks: It really wastes a lot of screen space, and despite Thom's comment about consistent menus, different applications can only have consistent menus up to a point - there's no point in having "ray tracing" options in the Tools menu on a browser, for example, or "Bookmark this page" options in AutoCAD.

*KDE mitigates it somewhat because you have the option of having the menus at the top of the screen, but this only works for KDE apps (surprise, and I'm not suggesting that there's anything they can do about it). And no matter how much I try to stick to KDE-only apps, sometimes I have to use something like Firefox or (gasp) pidgin.

my 0.02

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RE: Well...
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 24th Jun 2007 15:07 in reply to "Well..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

different applications can only have consistent menus up to a point

No, but the most important ones are always the same (File, Edit, View), and so are its contents.

Edited 2007-06-24 15:07

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RE: Well...
by phoenix on Mon 25th Jun 2007 21:12 in reply to "Well..."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

and despite Thom's comment about consistent menus, different applications can only have consistent menus up to a point

I believe Thom was talking about the names and placement of the menus, which should be consistent across apps, and not their contents, which are (obviously) application-dependent.

The menu bar should look the same across apps, and for the most part, they do:
KDE:
File Edit View ... Tools Settings Window Help

WinXP:
File Edit View ... Tools Window Help

Don't have access to a Mac, so can't comment on the order of the menus there.

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